Chartered Jordan Aviation Airbus A330 to Transport PIA Passengers to/from UK & France

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Chartered Jordan Aviation Airbus A330 to Transport PIA Passengers to/from UK & France

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According to a reliable source:

Chartered Jordan Aviation Airbus A330-200 aircraft will transport PIA passengers from Pakistan to UK.

Passengers from Pakistan will be removed UK travel "Red List" on September 22.

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Jordan Aviation Airbus A330-200 registrations JY-JVA & JY-JYB.

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Chartered Jordan Aviation aircraft to transport PIA passengers to Manchester from Islamabad and Lahore, according to news reports.

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Once again a poor choice of aircraft selected for PIA operations.

How will these aircraft compete with British Airways and Virgin Atlantic nonstop service on the 787s??

Plus Emirates, Qatar, Turkish and other airlines providing connecting flights.

These two airbuses are high density aircraft with zero on board entertainment.

Unless PIA fares are half of what the other airlines are charging I doubt anyone would fly PIA chartered flights.

This obviously shows the ex airforce CEO thinks he is still running the airline like a C-130.

Airline business is SERVICE ORIENTED BUSINESS. Its not a bus service.

PIA has reached this level because of incompetent and corrupt officials running the airline affairs.

Getting banned from Europe, US and UK should have been enough reason for the government to KICK OUT Arshad Malik, but seems like his connections are more powerful then the interests of the airline.

I am still wondering why has PIA not been able to get approval to use its own fleet until now, it has been over a year since we were banned.
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Amaad Lone wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:58 pm Once again a poor choice of aircraft selected for PIA operations.

How will these aircraft compete with British Airways and Virgin Atlantic nonstop service on the 787s??

Plus Emirates, Qatar, Turkish and other airlines providing connecting flights.

These two airbuses are high density aircraft with zero on board entertainment.

Unless PIA fares are half of what the other airlines are charging I doubt anyone would fly PIA chartered flights.

This obviously shows the ex airforce CEO thinks he is still running the airline like a C-130.

Airline business is SERVICE ORIENTED BUSINESS. Its not a bus service.

PIA has reached this level because of incompetent and corrupt officials running the airline affairs.

Getting banned from Europe, US and UK should have been enough reason for the government to KICK OUT Arshad Malik, but seems like his connections are more powerful then the interests of the airline.

I am still wondering why has PIA not been able to get approval to use its own fleet until now, it has been over a year since we were banned.
Technically the fleet is not banned. It is the operation with Pakistani licensed pilots that is banned (at least my understanding).
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Pakistani airlines, Pakistani registered aircraft and aircraft crew holding licenses issued by Pakistan Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) not allowed to operate flights to/from European Union (EU) member states because European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) has expressed concerns regarding oversight capabilities of Pakistan CAA.

EASA also rejected offer made by Pakistan to operate Pakistani registered aircraft with pilots and engineers holding licenses of foreign countries accepted by EASA.

International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) team is expected to visit Pakistan in October/November this year for Universal Safety Oversight Audit Programme (USOAP) of Pakistan Civil Aviation Authority (CAA).

Positive outcome of ICAO audit of Pakistan CAA may help in getting restrictions on operation of Pakistani airlines/Pakistan registered aircraft/Pakistani license aircraft crew flights to/from Europe and USA lifted.

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Jordan Aviation Airbus A330-200 (aircraft registration JY-JVB) performing flight R54497 from Amman to Manchester.

Probably positioning flight to Manchester before the A330 as chartered aircraft starts transporting PIA passengers between UK and Pakistan.

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I have question:

After the Brexit happen, is this possible for PIA to fly to UK only and still facing the EU ban? Mean is it possible for GoP to negotiate this solution?

If overfly is a problem wondering how long de-tour be added if PIA opt to fly over Iran, Turkey north Africa and circle back to UK?
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On September 23, chartered Jordan Aviation Airbus A330-200 (aircraft registration JY-JVB) flight R54492 from Manchester will arrive in Islamabad at 7:10 AM with PIA passengers.

The flight is scheduled to depart from Manchester at 4:00 PM on September 22.

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On September 23, chartered Jordan Aviation Airbus A330-200 (aircraft registration JY-JVB) flight R54492 from Manchester will arrive in Islamabad at 7:10 AM with PIA passengers.

The flight is scheduled to depart from Manchester at 4:00 PM on September 22.

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Today, the aircraft arrived in Manchester at 1:46 AM as ferry flight R54497 from Amman.

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ammad wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:28 am I have question:

After the Brexit happen, is this possible for PIA to fly to UK only and still facing the EU ban? Mean is it possible for GoP to negotiate this solution?

If overfly is a problem wondering how long de-tour be added if PIA opt to fly over Iran, Turkey north Africa and circle back to UK?
The UK has banned them too for the time being.
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For some reason, September 22 chartered Jordan Aviation Airbus A330-200 (aircraft registration JY-JVB) flight R54492 from Manchester to Islamabad with PIA passengers has been cancelled.

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Today, chartered Jordan Aviation Airbus A330-200 aircraft registration JY-JVB arrived in Islamabad at 7:44 AM as flight R54492 from Manchester with PIA passengers. The aircraft departed from Manchester at 7:54 PM on September 22 and completed flight to Islamabad in 7 hours & 50 minutes.

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Abbas Ali wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:42 pm Today, chartered Jordan Aviation Airbus A330-200 aircraft registration JY-JVB arrived in Islamabad at 7:44 AM as flight R54492 from Manchester with PIA passengers. The aircraft departed from Manchester at 7:54 PM on September 22 and completed flight to Islamabad in 7 hours & 50 minutes.

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The aircraft parked at a remote stand in Islamabad, interesting
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Amaad Lone wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:58 pm
Getting banned from Europe, US and UK should have been enough reason for the government to KICK OUT Arshad Malik, but seems like his connections are more powerful then the interests of the airline.
EASA ban wasn’t quite his fault in that regard Aviation minister and CAA officials deserve to be kicked out.
Arshad malik’s intended tenure has already been completed but looks like someone in the government thinks he’s going to magically turn into nur khan one day he wakes up.
It’s a shame how a population of 22cr can’t produce a good Airline CEO.