Former Belgian C-130s to Join Pakistan Air Force

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Former Belgian Air Component (Belgian Air Force) Lockheed C-130H Hercules (Manufacturer's Serial Number/MSN 382-4482) in full Pakistan Air Force (PAF) markings with serial number 4482 photographed landing at Brussels Airport, Belgium, on August 4, 2022. The aircraft performed a small test flight using call sign "PAAF482".

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Pakistan Air Force (482) taxiing in Brussels (EBBR) by Simon Van Assche Photography, on Flickr

7 former Belgian Air Force C-130s will be transferred to Pakistan Air Force.

Belgian Air Force C-130H CH-01 MSN 382-4455 to Pakistan Air Force 4455.
Belgian Air Force C-130H CH-04 MSN 382-4467 to Pakistan Air Force 4467.
Belgian Air Force C-130H CH-05 MSN 382-4470 to Pakistan Air Force 4470.
Belgian Air Force C-130H CH-07 MSN 382-4476 to Pakistan Air Force 4476.
Belgian Air Force C-130H CH-09 MSN 382-4479 to Pakistan Air Force 4479.
Belgian Air Force C-130H CH-11 MSN 382-4482 to Pakistan Air Force 4482.
Belgian Air Force C-130H CH-12 MSN 382-4483 to Pakistan Air Force 4483.

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Does PAF have C130 simulator?
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ammad wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:43 am Buying 50 year old museum worthy trash doesn't make any sense.

Not sure about political impact, but PAF should only be considering C-17 Globe master for heavy lifting and should get out of C130, running and managing 60 years old Aircraft kind of mindset
C-17 is designed for strategic airlift, while C-130 is a tactical airlifter. Plus of course the cost.
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TAILWIND wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:59 pm
ammad wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:43 am Buying 50 year old museum worthy trash doesn't make any sense.

Not sure about political impact, but PAF should only be considering C-17 Globe master for heavy lifting and should get out of C130, running and managing 60 years old Aircraft kind of mindset
C-17 is designed for strategic airlift, while C-130 is a tactical airlifter. Plus of course the cost.
C-17 have advantage in speed, payload, and range over the C-130. Could carry more pallets/ULDs, I think 16 or 18. The definition of Strategic and tactical mobility is kind of blurred based on Area of responsibility.

Though operating Cost for C-130 is less, but braving 50 years old equipment is an issue in itself too, isn't it?
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ammad wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 12:33 am
TAILWIND wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:59 pm
ammad wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:43 am Buying 50 year old museum worthy trash doesn't make any sense.

Not sure about political impact, but PAF should only be considering C-17 Globe master for heavy lifting and should get out of C130, running and managing 60 years old Aircraft kind of mindset
C-17 is designed for strategic airlift, while C-130 is a tactical airlifter. Plus of course the cost.
C-17 have advantage in speed, payload, and range over the C-130. Could carry more pallets/ULDs, I think 16 or 18. The definition of Strategic and tactical mobility is kind of blurred based on Area of responsibility.

Though operating Cost for C-130 is less, but braving 50 years old equipment is an issue in itself too, isn't it?
Military air lift capability is developed in response to to requirements spelled out in a military's operational doctrine. What, how much and where and in what time, the cargo (may it be equipment, weapons or personnel) is to be transported. These requirements then translate into the type of equipment most suitable for that role and the numbers these are required.
Just because there is a better, bigger or faster aircraft available else where, does not mean that we need that too.
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Right, this medieval mindset continue to feel happy and blessed to received 49 year old museum worthy aircraft that were retired else where by other Airforce.

These requirements of operational / strategic lift continuously needs to be improved, what was required 50 years ago is not same today hence the Aircraft.

No pun intended, but India added C-17 and their operations in Ladakh, West of Kashmir, and at NJ9842 point improved significantly.
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The C-17 is no longer in production.
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Former Belgian Air Component (Belgian Air Force) Lockheed C-130H Hercules (Manufacturer's Serial Number/MSN 382-4482) in full Pakistan Air Force (PAF) markings with serial number 4482 delivery acceptance flight from & to Brussels Airport, Belgium, on August 8, 2022.

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Pakistan Air Force - Lockheed C-130H - MSN382-4482 - 4482 by Steven Picalausa, on Flickr

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Ex-Belgium Air Force Lockheed C-130H Hercules newly Acquired by PAF - Photo by Rehan Waheed

Photo link: https://falcons.pk/photo/Lockheed-C-130H-Hercules/5165

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Former Belgian Air Component (Belgian Air Force) Lockheed C-130H Hercules (Manufacturer's Serial Number/MSN 382-4467) in full Pakistan Air Force (PAF) markings with serial number 4467 photographed at Brussels Airport, Belgium, on April 25, 2023.

Image4467 Lockheed CC-130 Pakistan Air Force ** Bruxelles 2023** by @Eurospot, on Flickr

7 former Belgian Air Force C-130s being transferred to Pakistan Air Force.

Belgian Air Force C-130H CH-01 MSN 382-4455 to Pakistan Air Force 4455.
Belgian Air Force C-130H CH-04 MSN 382-4467 to Pakistan Air Force 4467.
Belgian Air Force C-130H CH-05 MSN 382-4470 to Pakistan Air Force 4470.
Belgian Air Force C-130H CH-07 MSN 382-4476 to Pakistan Air Force 4476.
Belgian Air Force C-130H CH-09 MSN 382-4479 to Pakistan Air Force 4479.
Belgian Air Force C-130H CH-11 MSN 382-4482 to Pakistan Air Force 4482.
Belgian Air Force C-130H CH-12 MSN 382-4483 to Pakistan Air Force 4483.

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Delivery of 7 former Belgian Air Force C-130s to Pakistan Air Force has been completed. The number of C-130 aircraft in PAF inventory has increased to 23.

https://www.roznama92news.com/efrontend ... ate=&n=n21

PAF C-130/L-100 aircraft serial numbers:

C-130B serial number 3536
C-130B serial number 3689
C-130B serial number 3702
C-130B serial number 3751
C-130B serial number 3766
C-130E serial number 4119
L-100 serial number 4144
C-130E serial number 4148
C-130E serial number 4153
C-130E serial number 4159
C-130E serial number 4171
C-130E serial number 4177
C-130E serial number 4178
C-130E serial number 4189
C-130E serial number 4282
C-130H serial number 4455
C-130H serial number 4467
C-130H serial number 4470
C-130H serial number 4476
C-130H serial number 4479
C-130H serial number 4482
C-130H serial number 4483

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Former Belgian Air Force Lockheed C-130H Hercules in full Pakistan Air Force (PAF) markings with serial 4467 performing test flight from & to Brussels photographed on July 6, 2023, before delivery flight to Pakistan.

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4467 Pakistan - Air Force Lockheed C-130H Hercules by Thomas Desmet Photography, on Flickr

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