PIA Boeing 777-200ER (AP-BMG) Performing Flight to Toronto

[Abbas Ali]

Today, PIA Boeing 777-200ER (aircraft registration AP-BMG) in airline's 1960s retro livery is performing ultra long-haul flight to Toronto for the first time. The aircraft departed from Islamabad at 9:07 AM as non-stop flight PK781.

In the past, AP-BMG has performed flights to PIA destinations in Asia and Europe.


Source: flightradar24.com

Abbas

[Abbas Ali]

PIA Boeing 777-200ER (aircraft registration AP-BMG) in airline's 1960s retro livery on first visit to Toronto on November 10.



The aircraft arrived in Toronto as ultra long-haul flight PK781 from Islamabad completed in fourteen hours & twenty-five minutes.

The aircraft departed from Islamabad at 9:07 AM (local time) and arrived in Toronto at 1:33 PM (local time).


Source: flightradar24.com

Abbas

[umar744]

Congratulation Mubarak greeting to AP-BMG nonstop flight to YYZ good lucky but there crew bulk rest and maximum MTOW 297,000kg took off as it fuel 137,000kg happy smile

[Abbas Ali]

Today, PIA Boeing 777-200ER (aircraft registration AP-BMG) arrived in Islamabad at 3:02 PM as ultra long-haul flight PK782 from Toronto completed in twelve hours & twenty-three minutes.


Source: flightradar24.com

Aircraft photos taken in Toronto on November 10.



Abbas

[Abbas Ali]

So, why did PIA include two Boeing 777-200LR Worldliners in its 777s order when the job i.e. non-stop flight between Pakistan and North America can also be done with Boeing 777-200ER and Boeing 777-300ER that were part of the order?

The Worldliner became a lesser successful 777 variant in terms of sales.

Abbas

[Amaad Lone]

So, why did PIA include two Boeing 777-200LR Worldliners in its 777s order when the job i.e. non-stop flight between Pakistan and North America can also be done with Boeing 777-200ER and Boeing 777-300ER that were part of the order?

PIA two LRs were suppose to to Eva Air of Taiwan but they cancelled and Boeing offered it to PIA.

Pakistanis like always try to be flamboyant and asked for the two LRs to be the first ones to fly it.

It was for New York and Toronto, but does it make sense to order only two planes, while what we really needed for the 300ER as the 777s were replacing the 400 seat jumbos on routes to London, New York, and Saudi, so why settle for an aircraft that was heavy on fuel and PIA really did not need. Its called bad management.

[Khan747]

Have a question. Why isb-yyz took longer route Norway/iceland/greenland & canada where as return just crossing atlantic in middle & took shorter route. interestingly flight radar "great circle distance" is same for both in/out flight i.e. 11,008km

[fatah]

Have a question. Why isb-yyz took longer route Norway/iceland/greenland & canada where as return just crossing atlantic in middle & took shorter route. interestingly flight radar "great circle distance" is same for both in/out flight i.e. 11,008km

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/c ... e/2449729/

[Abbas Ali]

Air India uses Boeing 777-300ER for Delhi to Toronto non-stop flight.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ai187

Abbas

[raihans]

[Abbas Ali]

Today, PIA Boeing 777-200ER (aircraft registration AP-BMH) is making its first visit to Toronto as ultra long-haul flight PK783 from Karachi. The B777 departed from Karachi at 8:11 AM.


Source: flightradar24.com

Abbas

[arshad.altaf]

@raihans thank you for uploading that great video along with the control tower conversation. Enjoyed watching it.

Arshad

[umar744]

AP-BGJ, BGK, BGL, BGY, BGZ, BHV, BHW, BID, BMG, BMH have been to YYZ but AP-BHX and AP-BMS never been to YYZ???

[A310]

Today, PIA Boeing 777-200ER (aircraft registration AP-BMH) is making its first visit to Toronto as ultra long-haul flight PK783 from Karachi. The B777 departed from Karachi at 8:11 AM.


Source: flightradar24.com

Abbas

Just out of curiosity, aren’t ULR flights defined as flights with more than 18 hours flight time?

Because LR and E(xtended)LR flights are flights with 14 and 16 hours flight time. So in that case this should be an LR flight? I read this in the current ANO being followed by Pakistani airlines but I’m not sure if the same definition is used globally.

[Abbas Ali]

"Ultra-long-haul refers to the flight length of a flight being "ultralong." While there is no universally accepted definition for what is considered ultra-long-haul, the term generally refers to flights that are 12 hours or longer."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_long-haul

AP-BMH completed Karachi to Toronto flight PK783 in fourteen hours & twenty-nine minutes.



https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ap-bmh

Abbas