Handbag Problem

[umar744]

my dearest all you
salam and hello
yesterday my mother flew PIA PK793 with small handbag seat flight from Lahore to Chicago via Manchester. Stopover Manchester airport then departure gate staff told all passengers and my mother put money, ticket, passport inside clear plastic bag to cabin then all handbag into hold not cabin.I tried to contact PIA Manchester airport staff but no reply.
I would like to ask you, Have you or your friend or any passenger allowed carry handbag travel from Manchester to Pakistan on PK724, PK712 and PK722?I am worry about my small laptop and small camera in small handbag. i want to know PIA allowed handbag from Manchester to Islamabad on PK724 yes or no.
Yesterday my deaf friend told me that Karachi Airport ASF stricted removed deaf friend's perfume, cream and medience from her suitcase big baggage. is it true?
Please let me know and please reply soon
Kindest regards
Umar

[Abbas Ali]

Following info is from British Airports Authority (BAA) official website:

Airport Security Restrictions - latest update

22 August 2006

Following the Government’s reduction in security levels from critical to severe, passengers are reminded that strict security remains in place at all UK airports. This easing of restrictions is not a return to normal.

The revised regulations will continue to have an impact on our airports' operations. All passengers will be subject to hand baggage restrictions and are asked to be patient while these additional security measures are in place as delays are likely. Passengers are asked to allow extra time for their journey and to arrive at the airport prepared.

Hand baggage restrictions
Passengers are now permitted to carry ONE item of hand baggage, no larger than the specified size, through the airport security search point.



Please note: Other bags, such as handbags, may be carried within the single item of cabin baggage. All items carried by passengers will be x-ray screened. For further guidance on prohibited items, including what to do if travelling with baby milk and prescribed medicines, download this leaflet giving details on what you can and can't take into the cabin of an aircraft.

All laptops and large electrical items (eg large hairdryer) must be removed from the bag and placed in a tray so that such items neither obscure nor are obscured by the bag.

Pushchairs and walking aids are permitted but must be x-ray screened. Wheelchairs are permitted but must be thoroughly searched.

Further passenger information
Before security:
All shops and catering outlets are open to all passengers, but any liquids and gels purchased must be packed into your luggage for check-in. Any other purchases must fit into your hand luggage.

Once through security:
All shops and catering outlets are open to all passengers. If you are travelling to any destination except the USA then you can take all items purchased in the departures lounge into the aircraft cabin.

If you are travelling to the USA:
Extra restrictions are in place. Passengers will be subjected to secondary security searches at the gate. No toiletries or cosmetics purchased in the departure lounge will be allowed into the aircraft cabin and any drinks or liquid items must be consumed before boarding. Food, however, is allowed. Passengers boarding flights to the USA and items they are carrying, including those acquired after the central screening point, will be subjected to secondary search at the gate and any liquids discovered will be removed.

If you are in any doubt about what you can and cannot take on board please ask a member of staff.

Additional clarification on prohibited items:




More info here: BAA News Releases

[SENIOR]

When the security level in the UK went to 'critical' due to possible terrorist attacks on transatlantic (TA) flights all the pax onboard TA flights via MAN with the exception of course for those terminating at MAN had to remain onboard. These instructions were passed only by security at MAN because their job had simply doubled overnight and they simply could not divert any extra staff to screen PIA pax during the rush in the mornings.
When TSA discovered this they were not happy with this arrangement and would only allow flights east bound to stay on but not west bound flights.
This meant every single pax including wheelchairs had to disembark if any pax were carrying anything larger than a laptop size bag it would have to be tagged up for the hold and anything liquid would have to be disposed of.
Initially all electric items were not allowed through even mobile phones but now these rules have been relaxed.
All stations operating via MAN have been issued instructions in this regard not to allow any handbaggage onboard with the exception of a clear plastic bag with travel docs, pocket sized wallet or purse, prescription medication, keys and a mobile phone only.
East bound flights are still to remain onboard but all west bound flights are still subject to screening and clearance from TSA before departure of the flight.

[umar744]

salam hello thank you to senior very much
i understand westbound from Manchester to USA but how how can deaf people communicate talk hearing normal people without pen,paper,note pad and hearing aid?Last 11 August i went heathrow airport talked BAA airport security surpervisor realised for deaf communicate and they accepted me & deaf people can take note pad,paper,pen and hearing aid to plane for communicate important. I wrote a letter to Department for Transport by post and fax. Yesterday I received a letter from DfT said yes paper & pen & note pad allowed for deaf people to communicate. Your Senior message said that only clear plastic bag but can you please ask talk TSA & Manchester airport staff to tell you YES or NO can deaf people take paper, pen, note pad to cabin fly from Manchester to USA. If TSA or Manchester Airport staff say "NO" then deaf people can write & report DRC=disability Right Commission & DCS=Disablity councillation Service for DDA=Disabled Discrimination Act. Some Deaf people cannot understand read full english or other language and they use Deaf Sign language. Manchester and Heathrow airport have NO BSL=British Sign Language interpreter. How can Cabin crew communicate deaf people without paper, pen note pad? Some British Airways & Virgin Altantic Airways some cabin crew & some check in counter staff have basic or medium BSL deaf sign language.
I would like to ask you Senor please tell me, Yes or No can my mother carry laptop inside laptop case from Chicago to Lahore via Manchester? Please ask TSA and Chicago airport staff tell you tell me yes or no handbag laptop?
please let me know and please reply soon.
thank you very much for help me also i would like to thank you to Abbasi Ali history of pia for information.
With love best wishes regards from Umar Anis

[Moin]

Does this mean that the 1 piece of hand luggage that we were previously allowed upto a maximum of 7kg into the cabin is no longer allowed? They haven't mentioned weight either.

Previously it always was one piece of hand luggage which included a hold all with a maximum weight of 7kg and I would also carry a shoulder bag which would contain my ticket, passport, cigarettes, gum, pen, money etc.

If this now strictly applies to 1 piece, then the airlines should increase the baggage allowance by 7 to 10kg to make up for what is not permissable to carry into the cabin.

These buggers have sure succeeded in making travel for all more inconvenient than ever before.

[SENIOR]

All pax travelling ex MAN are allowed 01 pc only which is not to exceed a laptop size bag 45cm/35cm/16cm - this applies to all airlines from the UK.
The weight restriction of 5-7kgs max still applies - whether you can get enough weight into that size of bag is another matter.
But if you want to check-in your handluggage PIA ex MAN will allow upto 05kgs extra without charging on top of your weight allowance. However that means you do not carry any handbaggage once you've left check-in and boarding agents will check your boarding cards at the gate which will be marked 'no handluggage'. If any is found you may be charged at the gate with excess baggage costing £10/kg.
Transatlantic pax via MAN are advised to co-operate with the same restrictions to avoid further security problems and delays at MAN.

[Moin]

What about F and C class pax travelling from KHI to LHR and vv?