A 747 and the PIA graveyard at Karachi Airport (7th Jan 2024)

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A 747 and the PIA graveyard at Karachi Airport (7th Jan 2024)

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I noticed this 747 parked near one of the gates of the domestic terminal. The jetway was not completely connected; one could also see the stairs. Allah ko maalom, what was this plane doing there?

The other pictures are of old or some relatively old PIA planes.

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Re: A 747 and the PIA graveyard at KHI Airport (7th Jan 2024)

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That's aerostan's boeing 747, a regular visitor at KHI nowadays for cargo operations:
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Re: A 747 and the PIA graveyard at KHI Airport (7th Jan 2024)

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Karachi Aviator wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 6:51 am That's aerostan's boeing 747, a regular visitor at KHI nowadays for cargo operations:
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Re: A 747 and the PIA graveyard at Karachi Airport (7th Jan 2024)

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Very nice photos from Karachi Airport - Thank you Arshad for sharing.

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Re: A 747 and the PIA graveyard at Karachi Airport (7th Jan 2024)

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Do airline pilots based in Pakistan , get quarterly simulator re-training as some international airlines do? This re-training every 3-months provides pilots with additional training where they were lacking or updating their experience. Also, for pilots they need to constantly learn from others accidents and mistakes like with FAA/NTSB issue memorandums from time to time and new information adds to pilots flying and safety experience.
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Re: A 747 and the PIA graveyard at Karachi Airport (7th Jan 2024)

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arshad.altaf wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 6:32 am I noticed this 747 parked near one of the gates of the domestic terminal. The jetway was not completely connected; one could also see the stairs. Allah ko maalom, what was this plane doing there?

The other pictures are of old or some relatively old PIA planes.

Regards,
Arshad

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Re: A 747 and the PIA graveyard at Karachi Airport (7th Jan 2024)

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Ronald_Arif wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:00 pm Do airline pilots based in Pakistan , get quarterly simulator re-training as some international airlines do? This re-training every 3-months provides pilots with additional training where they were lacking or updating their experience. Also, for pilots they need to constantly learn from others accidents and mistakes like with FAA/NTSB issue memorandums from time to time and new information adds to pilots flying and safety experience.
As far as I know they follow the old practice - 6 monthly simulators are the common practice. Anything thats new and needs to be added to the training is integrated into the training syllabus of these simulators.

I am sure that the "thana culture" in simulator sessions by CAA inspectors that prevailed back in the day still exists. Pakistani pilots would definitely not want to be subjected to that every 3 months.
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Re: A 747 and the PIA graveyard at Karachi Airport (7th Jan 2024)

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@Karachi Aviator; @contrails; @Ronald Arif; and of course Abbas, thank you all for your informative comments.

Here is one more that I missed sharing. The geniuses at CAA or FIA or whatever expect a passenger to read all these notices while she/he is moving toward passport control.

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Re: A 747 and the PIA graveyard at Karachi Airport (7th Jan 2024)

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I took a flight from Karachi airport on 10th Jan @12PM -- I noted that multiple old 737 aircrafts of Shaheen Air were being toed / moved.. any idea ??
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Re: A 747 and the PIA graveyard at Karachi Airport (7th Jan 2024)

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Here are some photos of the plane graveyard on the right side of the international boarding gates in the early morning mist/fog/smog (whatever it is).

The other one is near the old terminal.

One wonders if these issues are ever raised in the CAA online kacheris.

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Re: A 747 and the PIA graveyard at Karachi Airport (7th Jan 2024)

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Ummm... that's an unusual place for these aircraft :-k :-k :-k they are usually parked at the end of the runway near shaheen hangar. Have they been moved to the shaheen graveyard where shaheen's retired 737s are rotting?
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