PIA Fokker F-27 (AP-BDS) structure offered for sale

Abbas Ali · Post by **Abbas Ali** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:11 am

In todayÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s (November 24, 2006) newspaper:

AP-BDS was withdrawn from use in April, 2005.

PIA Fokker F-27 Friendship Mk 200 (AP-BDS) at Karachi Airport - Copyright Aroosh Naqvi

ConnieMan · Post by **ConnieMan** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:26 am

Can this become PAF museum's artifact?, are they aware of this auction?...
They have A-26 Invader that was at Jinnah airport for ages!...

FMC · Post by **FMC** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:21 pm

AP-BDS. Is this the plane which was parked under AP-BAZ wing. And during the recent monsoon the AP-BAZ fell off it's jacks onto AP-BDS wing?

AN · Post by AN » Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:57 pm

Anyone want to put in a joint bid for the airplane?

FULLTHRUST · Post by **FULLTHRUST** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:30 pm

Yes, that structure could be used as CHAI KI DUKAAN anywhere in KHI.

ConnieMan · Post by **ConnieMan** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:32 pm

AN wrote:Anyone want to put in a joint bid for the airplane?

Are there any current picture/s of this airframe, if its capable of restoring in nice dispaly piece then i could be interested for donation to PAF museum, but then who is willing to this for me in Karachi even though if i do joint bid....

1st- What is the current condition of the airframe?, has it been all stripped of or all is there, i mean if its just a hulk left then there is no point but if most is there minus few cockpit guages, seats, engine parts then yes its worth it.

2nd- Logistics from Jinnah Airport to Museum, now how its possible while i am still here and its down there, who can supervise everything?, i mean all wings surfaces and vertical stab has to be taken off the fuselage, loaded on the flatbeds and moved across the whole city, somebody has to take the charge who would send me all the information as it happens with detailed pictures so i can guide too as what to do and what not.....

3rd- Is PAF museum willing to accept it as donation and restore it in there facility and then display it?, can somebody find this out and also give there emails and numbers so i can talk to them also....

Its do able but with right people, let me know and we will go from there.
BTW how much is or could be buying cost be for it?, any ideas roughly.as the cost of scrap aluminum.

Abbas Ali · Post by **Abbas Ali** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:51 pm

FMC wrote:AP-BDS. Is this the plane which was parked under AP-BAZ wing. And during the recent monsoon the AP-BAZ fell off it's jacks onto AP-BDS wing?

The Fokker damaged by AP-BAZ was AP-BDQ. Starboard wing of AP-BDQ was damaged in this incident.

Abbas

FMC · Post by **FMC** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:23 pm

Abbas Ali wrote:
FMC wrote:AP-BDS. Is this the plane which was parked under AP-BAZ wing. And during the recent monsoon the AP-BAZ fell off it's jacks onto AP-BDS wing?
The Fokker damaged by AP-BAZ was AP-BDQ. Starboard wing of AP-BDQ was damaged in this incident.

Abbas

Thanx for the info, abbas.

ConnieMan · Post by **ConnieMan** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:27 pm

Abbas Ali wrote:
FMC wrote:AP-BDS. Is this the plane which was parked under AP-BAZ wing. And during the recent monsoon the AP-BAZ fell off it's jacks onto AP-BDS wing?
The Fokker damaged by AP-BAZ was AP-BDQ. Starboard wing of AP-BDQ was damaged in this incident.

Abbas

Thanks Abbas Bahi for the update, sorry not interested but still like to see current pictures if possible.

ConnieMan · Post by **ConnieMan** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:33 pm

FULLTHRUST wrote:Yes, that structure could be used as CHAI KI DUKAAN anywhere in KHI.

Well its can for sure be used as chai ke dukan or pan walay ki dukan but its only going to be just fuselage that could not be worth as full aircraft for museum to preserve, i am sure since Fokkers are retired now there will be more offered in near future.

Abbas Ali · Post by **Abbas Ali** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 6:17 pm

Just saw the following photo posted by our forum member mohsin habib in topic viewtopic.php?t=7284

Copyright Mohsin Habib

I believe Fokker on the left in this photo is AP-BDS.

Abbas

ConnieMan · Post by **ConnieMan** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:52 pm

Thanks for the picture, from the looks of offered F-27 it seems as port wing has kink in it where the engine was and gear bay is, looks like spar is damaged too. Now i am wondering why PIA is stripping these airframes out to this extant!, these are retired birds, i doubt and company or another airline would even look at them, so whats the point of takeing all these part off, i can understand about the engine but why rest?. What PIA is going to do with them....