PIA to London Stansted ?

A340 · Post by **A340** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:09 pm

Salaam everyone,

Read about this on another forum and a start date of 25th July was mentioned. Seems so soon, wonder if there is any truth behind it?

Are PIA looking to add another UK destination?

Link: http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread ... 407&page=5

B777240ER · Post by **B777240ER** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:28 pm

Nothing but a rumour.

But I wish the UK-Pakistan bilateral will change soon. 10 weekly flights to LHR/LGW is not enough.

A340 · Post by **A340** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 7:14 pm

Thanks for your reply.

Indeed seems like a rumour and no more at this stage.

Aer Pakistan · Post by **Aer Pakistan** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 7:54 pm

Well guys this is true that inshallah PIA will start its operation from stansted soon date is not finallize but aircarft and flight timing be set up

in start PIA will operate three flight's a week with A310

arr at 1300 lt and depart at 1600lt from isb and khi

tue khi in and going out to isb
thu isb in and going out to khi
sat khi in and khi out

in view to maintain daily service from isb and khi will be inshallah been to stansted last week for meeting too.

best regards

PK777 · Post by **PK777** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:41 pm

How is the population distributed that could feed a three times a week service? I mean is there enough demand for Stansted, wouldnt Gatwick be better? (if they were given permission?)

SteveUK · Post by **SteveUK** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:55 pm

Yes, Gatwick would be much better - obviously subject to slots.

I suppose it depends on who PIA is trying to attract to use this proposed service: there is little by way of connecting flights from Stansted, so presumably the target will be those just going to and from the UK - or more specifically the East End of London and Essex.

With Gatwick there would at least be connecting flights to the USA: Continental to Newark and Houston, Delta to Cincinnati and Atlanta, USAir to Philadelphia, and NorthWest to Minneapolis and Detroit.

If introducing new flights to a London airport - would it not be better to offer an overnight service to London and a daytime flight back to Pakistan? For example, depart Karachi 02h30 arrive 06h45, depart 10h00 arrive Karachi 21h45? Just an idea......

The slots 'issue' at LHR and LGW always puzzles me: If Emirates and Qatar Airways want extra slots they get them just like that, Air New Zealand recently got an extra daily slot at LHR for it's new double daily AKL service, and there are other examples. It would be good if PIA could get an additional 4 slots per week at LHR to offer a double daily Pakistan/London service, and if they pushed the UK CAA hard enough then they might get lucky. Failing that, Musharraf should get on the blower to B-Liar (sorry, Mr Blair!!).

behramjee · Post by **behramjee** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:03 am

The slots 'issue' at LHR and LGW always puzzles me: If Emirates and Qatar Airways want extra slots they get them just like that, Air New Zealand recently got an extra daily slot at LHR for it's new double daily AKL service, and there are other examples. It would be good if PIA could get an additional 4 slots per week at LHR to offer a double daily Pakistan/London service, and if they pushed the UK CAA hard enough then they might get lucky. Failing that, Musharraf should get on the blower to B-Liar (sorry, Mr Blair!!).

its not the slots issue but the bilaterals problem between PAK & UK which permits PAK carriers to fly only upto 10 weekly flights to LHR/LGW combined. Getting night time slots at LHR and LGW is not a big problem...the issue is bilateral capacity.

Aer Pakistan · Post by **Aer Pakistan** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:30 am

what i can say is that pia looking forward to provide better service to easten side of uk and trying to offer wide range of flight from uk only as manchester and london heathrow is doing well for trans atlantic connections.

i think pia looking forward to pull out its 747's from uk specially from lhr soon once these flights start and load will be divided b/w two airport. LGW is not good for pia pax's

B777240ER · Post by **B777240ER** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:38 am

Aer Pakistan wrote:tue khi in and going out to isb
thu isb in and going out to khi
sat khi in and khi out

So thats 1 weekly ISB-STN and 2 weekly KHI-STN?

bagold · Post by **bagold** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:33 am

PIA to Stansted would make sense. A significant proportion of London Pakistanis live in East London.