Rumor of a deal between SIA & PIA...

[Saleem Hatoum]

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[kamalla]

how old are the 773s?

do you have a source on this?

[Boeing 787]

Yaar this a gup. SIA has never purchased aircrafts from other airlines for decades they always take it from the manufacturer.

[Amaad Lone]

Why would SIA buy 777-200LRs when they are already operating the A340-500 on their ultra-long haul routes???

Unless they plan to scrap the A340-500 for 777-200LRs.

The deal sounds good if PIA has no hope of operating non-stop to the US.

Also PIA should only pick up the SIA aircraft if they are the 300ER model plus have common engines to the PIA fleet.

[B777240ER]

PIA should only pick up the SIA aircraft if they are the 300ER model plus have common engines to the PIA fleet.

Agree.

However if it is the base -300 than PK should at least 3 for 2 B772LR

[Imran Hassan]

This is a total lie, why on God's Earth would PIA stupidly swap two state of the art 777's for older version of an aicraft which it is receivng this dec.

[Moin]

SIA's 773's are baseline models with RR engines. The 773ER's have the GE-90-110. If they're talking about those, thats a different matter. However this again sounds like crew gossip to me. The last thing PIA needs is another 747/DC-10 like swap fiasco.

[flyingsystem]

SThe last thing PIA needs is another 747/DC-10 like swap fiasco.

Sorry for this (perhaps) stupid question but why was it a "fiasco"? I just know they changed them with a canadian company but I dont know anything else about this deal...

[Amaad Lone]

....to swap 2 SIA B-777-300 for PIA 2 B-777-200LR.

So Saleem what is your source???

I hardly think PIA will swap two latest 777-200LRs with GE engines for two basic model 777-300s with RR engines, introducing a new maintainance nightmare.

I would agree with Moin, sounds like cabin crew gossip.

Once such gossip was that the 777-200ERs that PIA got were used.

[nutsforplanes]

It would make more sense if they were swapped for the 300ER.
SIA placed an order for 32 (19 firm & 13 option) 777-300ER in 2004.

PIA would do well to swap the LR's with the 300ER of SIA. With their own 3 ER's to be delivered soon plus 2 more from SIA, they can retire some of the 74's early.

The 300ER's could easily do PAK-USA-CAN non-stop with full-load, except IAH I think

SIA is seriously evaluating the LR's. When the 5 A340-500 were ordered, SIA had 5 more on option. But those options were cancelled almost 6 months ago.

If the swap is for the basic -300, its foolish. But then again its PIA, they have a good track record of doing this sort of stuff... the 747-DC10 exchange, leasing and then buying the CX 743's.

[CPH]

....to swap 2 SIA B-777-300 for PIA 2 B-777-200LR.

I think this whole story is nonsense.

Please don't spread story like this with out any sources. Even rumors have sources.

Mr. Saleem You can't just write "to swap 2 SIA B-777-300 for PIA 2 B-777-200LR" And nothing about where You have heard that from/sources ect.

If we want to have, and contuniue a serious forum at HOP, I think that we have to be more aware of what we are writing in this forum.

Just my opinion.

[Jacobin777]

Why would SIA buy 777-200LRs when they are already operating the A340-500 on their ultra-long haul routes???

Unless they plan to scrap the A340-500 for 777-200LRs.

The deal sounds good if PIA has no hope of operating non-stop to the US.

Also PIA should only pick up the SIA aircraft if they are the 300ER model plus have common engines to the PIA fleet.

SQ won't be getting the -300ER until the fall/winter of this year.....considering that SQ will have the same kind of F/J-class interiours on their 777-300ER as they will on their A380, I doubt SQ will be wanting to "switch"..

also, though PK can't fly Pakistan-USA, they have been flying Pakistan-YYZ-Pakistan nonstop, and should be able to fly USA-Pakistan nonstop...

finally, the -200LR allows PK to open more routes.....