PIA Fleet Status

Usman123 · Post by **Usman123** » Thu Mar 20, 2025 10:06 pm

Now we know why all lessors reject to take back PIA used jets happened with BMH, BMG (which doesn't look like will be flying again) & BLY, BLZ.
The amount that could have been spent on new jets or cabin upgrades has to been spent to buying out leased planes another story of incompetence from all departments.

PIA could have leased new wide-bodies had they managed to return leased jets not a new story though happening for a long at PIA happened with the leased 747s aswell.

PIA330 · Post by **PIA330** » Fri Mar 21, 2025 1:26 am

If the UK flights start after EID, what other aircraft will they have. A few of our 777s have engine replacements, and need a cabin upgrade. PIA needs to dry lease maybe 2 or 3 A330s from Air Belgium or some other airline ASAP.

Pakistanis are paying tax, at least use the taxpayers money to dry lease a few 330s for the UK flights.

HassanKhan · Post by **HassanKhan** » Fri Mar 21, 2025 7:11 am

PIA330 wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 1:26 am If the UK flights start after EID, what other aircraft will they have. A few of our 777s have engine replacements, and need a cabin upgrade. PIA needs to dry lease maybe 2 or 3 A330s from Air Belgium or some other airline ASAP.

Pakistanis are paying tax, at least use the taxpayers money to dry lease a few 330s for the UK flights.

Firstly, would the tax payer want to see their hard earned money get mismanaged? Secondly, the IMF is watching every single rupee being spent by the government and would not want the government to spend on the airline they told it to privatize. Thirdly, it is not in the ability of the management to induct new jets anymore. They trade parts for parts for their 777s and with the supply shortages faced by manufacturers, no airline would want to trade parts.

They will just start UK operations by phasing out other routes with their aging fleet.

PIA330 · Post by **PIA330** » Fri Mar 21, 2025 2:58 pm

HassanKhan wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 7:11 am
PIA330 wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 1:26 am If the UK flights start after EID, what other aircraft will they have. A few of our 777s have engine replacements, and need a cabin upgrade. PIA needs to dry lease maybe 2 or 3 A330s from Air Belgium or some other airline ASAP.

Pakistanis are paying tax, at least use the taxpayers money to dry lease a few 330s for the UK flights.
Firstly, would the tax payer want to see their hard earned money get mismanaged? Secondly, the IMF is watching every single rupee being spent by the government and would not want the government to spend on the airline they told it to privatize. Thirdly, it is not in the ability of the management to induct new jets anymore. They trade parts for parts for their 777s and with the supply shortages faced by manufacturers, no airline would want to trade parts.

They will just start UK operations by phasing out other routes with their aging fleet.

When PIA gets privatized, at least there will be a new management that can buy new planes and improve the fleet cabin.

HassanKhan · Post by **HassanKhan** » Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:33 pm

PIA330 wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 2:58 pm
HassanKhan wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 7:11 am
PIA330 wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 1:26 am If the UK flights start after EID, what other aircraft will they have. A few of our 777s have engine replacements, and need a cabin upgrade. PIA needs to dry lease maybe 2 or 3 A330s from Air Belgium or some other airline ASAP.

Pakistanis are paying tax, at least use the taxpayers money to dry lease a few 330s for the UK flights.
Firstly, would the tax payer want to see their hard earned money get mismanaged? Secondly, the IMF is watching every single rupee being spent by the government and would not want the government to spend on the airline they told it to privatize. Thirdly, it is not in the ability of the management to induct new jets anymore. They trade parts for parts for their 777s and with the supply shortages faced by manufacturers, no airline would want to trade parts.

They will just start UK operations by phasing out other routes with their aging fleet.
When PIA gets privatized, at least there will be a new management that can buy new planes and improve the fleet cabin.

A more likely scenario would be that the private entity that acquires PIA gets the spare parts required to reactivate the rest of the airlines 777 capacity in the short term. As for the Long term I don't think they will be interested in the A338 as it is a troubled aircraft.

Abbas Ali · Post by **Abbas Ali** » Fri Mar 21, 2025 7:42 pm

PIA330 · Post by **PIA330** » Sat Mar 22, 2025 6:34 am

HassanKhan wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:33 pm
PIA330 wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 2:58 pm
HassanKhan wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 7:11 am
PIA330 wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 1:26 am If the UK flights start after EID, what other aircraft will they have. A few of our 777s have engine replacements, and need a cabin upgrade. PIA needs to dry lease maybe 2 or 3 A330s from Air Belgium or some other airline ASAP.

Pakistanis are paying tax, at least use the taxpayers money to dry lease a few 330s for the UK flights.
Firstly, would the tax payer want to see their hard earned money get mismanaged? Secondly, the IMF is watching every single rupee being spent by the government and would not want the government to spend on the airline they told it to privatize. Thirdly, it is not in the ability of the management to induct new jets anymore. They trade parts for parts for their 777s and with the supply shortages faced by manufacturers, no airline would want to trade parts.

They will just start UK operations by phasing out other routes with their aging fleet.
When PIA gets privatized, at least there will be a new management that can buy new planes and improve the fleet cabin.
A more likely scenario would be that the private entity that acquires PIA gets the spare parts required to reactivate the rest of the airlines 777 capacity in the short term. As for the Long term I don't think they will be interested in the A338 as it is a troubled aircraft.

Spare Parts, Cabin Refurbishment to international standards for the 777 and for the long term they should dry lease A350 from FinAir or buy them. If the YB Holdings wins or the 3rd bidder that will be participating by surprise too in the Bidding Process and maybe wins PIA.

Karachi Aviator · Post by **Karachi Aviator** » Sun Mar 23, 2025 12:07 am

AP-BGY assigned flights according to flight radar, the aircraft could be back soon.

Abbas Ali · Post by **Abbas Ali** » Sun Mar 23, 2025 2:07 pm

On March 23, PIA Boeing 777-200LR aircraft registration AP-BGY returned to service when it left Karachi at 7:05 PM as flight PK302 to Lahore.

Source: flightradar24.com

AP-BGY was on the ground at Karachi Airport since May 12, 2024.

Abbas

Karachi Aviator · Post by **Karachi Aviator** » Sun Mar 23, 2025 3:28 pm

Abbas Ali wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 2:07 pm On March 23, PIA Boeing 777-200LR aircraft registration AP-BGY returned to service when it left Karachi at 7:05 PM as flight PK302 to Lahore.

Source: flightradar24.com

AP-BGY was on the ground at Karachi Airport since May 12, 2024.

Abbas

BGY is back but BHV is grounded.

BMG: Needs landing gear
BHV: Needs engines
BID: Needs pretty much everything including engines
Why is BGJ grounded ?

This means PIA still hasn't acquired any new engines for the fleet and is still moving around the existing ones from one aircraft to another.

planefan2003 · Post by **planefan2003** » Sun Mar 23, 2025 3:34 pm

What aircraft will they use for Manchester Flights? Currently B777-300ER has been scheduled, but only BMS is in service.

TomcatTask · Post by **TomcatTask** » Sun Mar 23, 2025 3:38 pm

Karachi Aviator wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 3:28 pm
Abbas Ali wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 2:07 pm On March 23, PIA Boeing 777-200LR aircraft registration AP-BGY returned to service when it left Karachi at 7:05 PM as flight PK302 to Lahore.

Source: flightradar24.com

AP-BGY was on the ground at Karachi Airport since May 12, 2024.

Abbas
BGY is back but BHV is grounded.

BMG: Needs landing gear
BHV: Needs engines
BID: Needs pretty much everything including engines
Why is BGJ grounded ?

This means PIA still hasn't acquired any new engines for the fleet and is still moving around the existing ones from one aircraft to another.

BGJ is being brought back to service, last I saw it was undergoing a maintenance check and getting new engines.

AviationLover2020 · Post by **AviationLover2020** » Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:35 am

Has AP-BLB gone technical? It was scheduled for PK133 to Dubai last night, and that flight was cancelled at last minute, and so is PK451 to Skardu. Flightradar seems to show it’s being ferried to Karachi.

Abbas Ali · Post by **Abbas Ali** » Fri Mar 28, 2025 7:10 pm

planefan2003 · Post by **planefan2003** » Fri Mar 28, 2025 7:56 pm

Is it true that AP-BID is also joining BGL and BHW to the scrapyard?

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