Sir my friend ahmed Janjua was either the co pilot or the observer! i dont know about the captain !umar744 wrote:Sad
I ask you is Capt S Janjua with beard? Because I flew with him first officer A310 12 years ago?
Do you have photo of pilot?
I will try photo from my old video camera send to HOP
PIA ATR Flight PK-661 Crashes Near Havelian
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I will assume that investigators from France and Canada will also join this investigationAbbas Ali wrote:Air Commodore (Retd.) Munir to head PK-661 crash investigation team.
PIA Chairman to hold press conference at 10:00 PM.
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^ Yes, news channels were mentioning pilot's YouTube channel with beautiful videos of flights.
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The same airplane (AP-BHO) had had a runway excursion back in 2009 at landing at LHE. It was reported to be 'substantially' damaged but was repaired and put into service. Wonder if today's crash had anything to do with structural damage to one of the wings due to added stress in case of engine failure. It has happened before; JAL flt 123 suffered in-flight structural damage after an incorrect repair to a tailstrike damage leading to the worst single-aircraft accident in the history of aviation
The same airplane (AP-BHO) had had a runway excursion back in 2009 at landing at LHE. It was reported to be 'substantially' damaged but was repaired and put into service. Wonder if today's crash had anything to do with structural damage to one of the wings due to added stress in case of engine failure. It has happened before; JAL flt 123 suffered in-flight structural damage after an incorrect repair to a tailstrike damage leading to the worst single-aircraft accident in the history of aviation

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^Wasnt it repaired by ATR back then ?

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from youtube videos, the atr seem to be flying near shoulder height of the peaks. we know its a mountainous region and service ceiling of atr is is 25k feet
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PIA ATR 42-500 registration AP-BHO Chitral to Islamabad flight PK-661 crash site and burning wreckage near Havelian, Abbottabad.


Source: ummat.net
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Source: ummat.net
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PIA Press Release
Karachi; December 7, 2016 - We deeply regret to announce that a PIA flight PK-661 aircraft ATR 42-500 registration AP-BHO crashed near Havelian at 1642 hrs PST today, 7th December 2016. No further details of the accident are available at the moment. 42 passengers, five crew members and one ground engineer were on board.
Chairman PIA Azam Saigol and CEO Bernd Hildenbrand have expressed deep grief and sorrow over the tragic incident involving crash of PIA's ATR 42-500 (AP-BHO) this afternoon and extended heartfelt condolences to the families of those who lost their lives.
On their directions, as per international aviation requirement, an Emergency Response Center has been established at PIA Headquarters Karachi from where senior PIA management has been monitoring the situation since the incident took place.
An inquiry has been ordered into the incident.
Rescue efforts are under way and we are also ascertaining the extent of damage to life of those on board the aircraft. PIA is doing everything possible to help the families of passengers and crew members for first hand information regarding the incident and damage.
The crash site is near a small village called Saddha Batolni near Havelian.
PIA's emergency response center can be accessed at the following phone numbers for updates:
0092-21-99242352, 0092-21- 99242254, 99242332, 99242284, 0092-21-99242336, 0092-21-99044890, 0092-21-99044376 and 0092-21-99044394.
Source: PIA Press Release (December 7, 2016)
Karachi; December 7, 2016 - We deeply regret to announce that a PIA flight PK-661 aircraft ATR 42-500 registration AP-BHO crashed near Havelian at 1642 hrs PST today, 7th December 2016. No further details of the accident are available at the moment. 42 passengers, five crew members and one ground engineer were on board.
Chairman PIA Azam Saigol and CEO Bernd Hildenbrand have expressed deep grief and sorrow over the tragic incident involving crash of PIA's ATR 42-500 (AP-BHO) this afternoon and extended heartfelt condolences to the families of those who lost their lives.
On their directions, as per international aviation requirement, an Emergency Response Center has been established at PIA Headquarters Karachi from where senior PIA management has been monitoring the situation since the incident took place.
An inquiry has been ordered into the incident.
Rescue efforts are under way and we are also ascertaining the extent of damage to life of those on board the aircraft. PIA is doing everything possible to help the families of passengers and crew members for first hand information regarding the incident and damage.
The crash site is near a small village called Saddha Batolni near Havelian.
PIA's emergency response center can be accessed at the following phone numbers for updates:
0092-21-99242352, 0092-21- 99242254, 99242332, 99242284, 0092-21-99242336, 0092-21-99044890, 0092-21-99044376 and 0092-21-99044394.
Source: PIA Press Release (December 7, 2016)
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Crash site points to explosion at impact not before. The plane seems to have hit the upper point and skidded downwards, burning...
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Flight PK-661 commander Capt. Salehyar Janjua when he was Airbus A310-300 First Officer in year 2010. Photos by Capt. Shayan Haqqee.


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I have no info regarding where it was repaired but even if it was repaired at an ATR facility, things can go wrong, though unlikely. Anyhow, we do not know what went wrong. It was just a thought that struck me when I was going through airline safety database and saw the same registration number in another accident.Pakistan-1 wrote:^Wasnt it repaired by ATR back then ?
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Tail section of AP-BHO at crash site.

According to news sources:
All dead bodies recovered from crash site.
A flight recorder also recovered from crash site.
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According to news sources:
All dead bodies recovered from crash site.
A flight recorder also recovered from crash site.
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Chairman PIA told DAWN News channel:
Around 4:09 PM - flight PK-661 crew informed air traffic control about engine problem.
Around 4:13 PM - cockpit crew gave Mayday call.
Around 4:15 PM - radar contact with the aircraft lost.
The ill-fated ATR had undergone A Check in October.
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Around 4:09 PM - flight PK-661 crew informed air traffic control about engine problem.
Around 4:13 PM - cockpit crew gave Mayday call.
Around 4:15 PM - radar contact with the aircraft lost.
The ill-fated ATR had undergone A Check in October.
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Can anyone fetch the last recordings from liveatc?
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