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PIA ban unfair

Post by pkjet »

How come Biman can operate DC10s that are falling apart yet PIA's A310s are scrutinised ??

Political issue this.
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Post by cheetah »

Its not the aircaft they are concerned about.. its the systems that have fallen apart.
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Post by smarties »

Bangladesh Airlines are only sending A310's to LHR. According to their website no DC-10's operate into Heathrow.
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Its a conspiracy - We are so good no one can stand us. Right?
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Post by CoyBoy »

It makes perfect sense they are jealous of the new tail designs, note that only three 777's will be wearing the new tails 8)
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Post by nutsforplanes »

KARACHI: PIA, CAA were aware of serious lapses


By Azfar-ul-Ashfaque

KARACHI, March 14: The Pakistan International Airlines and the Civil Aviation Authority were well-aware of serious lapses found by a European Union (EU) inspection team in flight operations, flight safety, engineering and maintenance during its three-day visit to all core operational safety areas, claimed well-placed sources in the airline.

The sources told Dawn that the visit of the EU team aimed at verifying implementation of PIA’s Corrective Action Plan and after witnessing several lapses, the team hinted to both the CAA and the PIA that on the basis of their findings the EU may restrict most of the national carrier’s aircraft for failing to meet EU-SAFA safety standards.

A confidential document sent to the Chairman PIA from head of Quality Assurance said that the EU inspectors cited several examples to show improperly conducted routine aircraft defect rectification still being performed by Line Maintenance. “Aircrew was reporting running Skydrol leakage from one of the Boeing-777 PCUs. This defect had not been cleared for over a month by the engineering staff and was continuously being written off the aircraft technical logbook as ‘leak checked: Found within limits’.”

In another case an A310 aircraft had a multiple repeated series of problems with its landing gear extension/retraction mechanism using the main Hydraulic system. Alternate hydraulic system which is an emergency backup system only was being used by aircrew for more than 15 days which constituted serious safety hazard.

The EU team inspected a Boeing 747, which had repeatedly reported problems of “aircraft pulling to the left during taxi”. This defect was reported several times for more than one week. Each time short cut maintenance work was done without performing the systematic series of checks as required by the Aircraft Maintenance Manual.

In the fourth example, the EU team told the PIA and CAA that a PIA aircraft had to be switched off during departure start-up due to sticky flight controls movement problem. However, this snag was summarily cleared as “Snag could be not duplicated on ground. Operation checked found Sat (satisfactory)”. The complete sequel of required maintenance checks mandatory to be performed in the case of critical system like flight control was just ignored. These actions indicated that there is no specific direction, monitoring or control for dealing with repeated defects and for referral to technical manuals in serious situations.

The EU team showed their concern on management of Maintenance Reliability Programme, which was non-existent till six months back and was recently started after a three-year gap.

Mr Kirmani was also informed that the EU team observed that the Engineering Quality Assurance procedure look very good on papers but its effectiveness in actually improving the quality and safety standards of aircraft maintenance was unsatisfactory.

Some aircraft engineers requesting anonymity told Dawn that many times they were directed to release the aircraft despite the fact that they were not safe according to EU standards.

They said after the ban, the top authorities of the airline blamed the engineers for the EU ban and posted junior and non-professional staff to hide their own failure.

This has caused resentment among the aircraft engineers, who have started a protest campaign against the airline management these days.

Daily Dawn:
http://dawn.com/2007/03/15/local2.htm
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Post by VC10 »

Outsource maintenence to QR/EK ASAP, otherwise the PIA we know is finished.It's as simlple as that.
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Image http://www.flightlevel350.com/Aircraft_ ... -6419.html

Pakistan International Airlines - Manchester - (EGCC / MAN) Ringway/Manchester Intl ...
United Kingdom June 10, 2006

Boeing 747-200 by Simon Lowe (AP-BAK) 747 on a go-around. I have included ATC communications!

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Post by zerbaer »

EK & the other already farm out their maint. This is no time for munna stuff.
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Post by pkjet »

Erm..............I think you'll find that the DC10 is very much in use at Manchester :

http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5920334
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Post by jackson.aviator »

zerbaer wrote:Its a conspiracy - We are so good no one can stand us. Right?
Was that a joke? Please tell me it was.
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Post by Jacobin777 »

..the only thing unfair is the why are Kirmani and his chelays allowed to run PK?
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Post by VC10 »

zerbaer wrote:EK & the other already farm out their maint. This is no time for munna stuff.
munna stuff or no airline - take your pick.
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jackson.aviator wrote:
zerbaer wrote:Its a conspiracy - We are so good no one can stand us. Right?
Was that a joke? Please tell me it was.
YES it is,cos i cannot stop laughing..............Conspiracy.........hehehe :lol:
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Post by zerbaer »

It is so much simpler to wipe your own nose, especially after the hi octane salaries.