PIA is the star of the show !

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PIA is the star of the show !

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http://www.ringwayreports.co.uk/

Nice to see the green(and cream) queen headlining something !
You can't be all things to all people...so just be nice !
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Thank you pkjet for sharing the link, do check this as well:
http://www.ringwayreports.co.uk/AP-BGY.htm
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Daily Times 8-3-07

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Japan, Singapore, HK follow in EU footsteps

http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?pa ... 2007_pg7_9

Staff Report

KARACHI: A new development added to the woes of Pakistan International Airlines – already reeling from a partial European Union ban on its fleet – as three Asian countries on Tuesday followed in the footsteps of European countries by objecting to the airline’s Boeing 747s and Airbus 310s.

Sources told Daily Times that Hong Kong, Japan and Singapore had expressed concern over PIA’s safety standards because of the European Union ban. “The three Asian countries’ concerns ostensibly emanated from the findings of the EU and UK air safety authorities on PIA’s fleet,” the sources told Daily Times. They said the airline’s representatives at the Asian destinations had been approached by the three countries’ officials, as they were keen to know what led to the EU restrictions.

“We immediately allowed the Hong Kong and Singaporean authorities to carry out an inspection of our planes, and find out to their own satisfaction whether the airline was conforming with international safety standards or not,” they said, adding that a Boeing 747 in Hong Kong and an Airbus 310 in Singapore were given a “clean chit” by the air safety authorities of those countries following an investigation on Tuesday.

The inspection of another A310 was expected on Thursday, when the aircraft would fly to Tokyo, they said. The sources told Daily Times that most of the findings of the EU and UK air safety authorities had suggested a lack of professionalism on the part of PIA and CAA, as none of the areas highlighted by the EU and the UK required extraordinary efforts.

“For example, the UK and EU had on several occasions asked the airline’s cockpit crew to carry their licence documents in the shape of plastic-laminated cards, but the CAA, which is responsible for issuing licences, still does not issue these documents like that,” they added. They said that Pakistani authorities had not tried to adopt the procedures and formats being followed in European countries. They said the airline had also been accused of poor maintenance of its suitcase containers.

The sources said that the presence of wet carpets near toilets had been identified as one of the poorest maintained areas of an aircraft by the European authorities. PIA accuses passengers of Pakistani-origin of showering in toilets. The airline’s pilots have also not been observing European guidelines on the use of eyeglasses. The sources said the EU and UK air safety authorities also observed that paint on some of the aircraft had started to peel off. A panel of British lawyers advised Pakistan to address the grey areas the EU and UK had identified, to resolve the matter in three to four months, they added.

APP adds: Separately, PIA Chairman Tariq Kirmani said on Wednesday that the airline had decided to improve flight safety by refurbishing its existing fleet and acquiring new planes on lease. He told Geo News that the second phase of the process to upgrade PIA’s fleet would be launched from March 28.
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Post by m2hassan »

This thing keeps getting fuzzier. I keep reading these guidelines and notices tht EU presents , and from this article having 2 pair of reading glasses is not as serious issue , if u consider it to the big picture , where a whole fleet of planes have been banned. However, these r persistant warnings and u need to adapt to some minor regulations becuase fact of the matter is CAA Pakistan is no some big shot Aviation regulatory body . So they need to make and initiate these minor adaptations over time. We could go on abt how this is all beaucracy BS and its the politician and there incompetent ppl running the show and blah blah.
SOme thing needs to be done , before we have a complete crash in the system , so WE GOTTA RECOVER!
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m2hassan wrote:This thing keeps getting fuzzier. I keep reading these guidelines and notices tht EU presents , and from this article having 2 pair of reading glasses is not as serious issue .
The thing is CAVOK. Maybe you need a new prescription for your 2 pair of glasses. When phuket air and some congo air can get themselves off the banned list why is PIA shying away from it.
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Official Journal of the European Union 6.3.2007

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Some can suck this:

L 66/4
6.3.2007

Pakistan International Airlines
[18] Pakistan International Airlines has submitted to the
Commission a corrective action plan intended to
address the systemic safety deficiencies which have
been identified by various Member States
through ramp inspections performed under the SAFA programme.
Furthermore, the competent authorities of Pakistan have
endorsed the carrier's action plan, and have established
an annual oversight plan of surveillance activities of the
carrier.

(19) A team of European experts conducted a fact-finding
mission to Pakistan from 12 to 16 February 2007 to
evaluate the implementation of the submitted action
plan.
Its report shows that some of the actions needed
to redress the situation of the company in relation to
compliance with relevant safety standards still have to be
completed, particularly for its aircraft of type Boeing
B-747 and Airbus A-310.
The situation is at present
satisfactory with regards to the B-777s fleet which is
not affected by the systemic deficiencies referred to
under recital 18 above, as well as the fact of continued
airworthiness being ensured through adequate
arrangements.

(20) Consequently, on the basis of the common criteria, it is
assessed that Pakistan International Airlines does not
meet the relevant safety standards, except for flights
operated with the Boeing B-777s fleet,
and should be
included in Annex B with respect to any other
operations (1). In addition, Member States intend to
ensure further verification of effective compliance with
relevant safety standards through systematic ramp
inspections on this carrier.
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Re: Official Journal of the European Union 6.3.2007

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zerbaer wrote:Some can suck this:

L 66/4
6.3.2007

compliance with relevant safety standards still have to be
completed, particularly for its aircraft of type Boeing
B-747 and Airbus A-310.
[/color] The situation is at present
satisfactory with regards to the B-777s fleet which is
not affected by the systemic deficiencies referred to
under recital 18 above[/color] i
Pakistan International Airlines does not
meet the relevant safety standards, except for flights
operated with the Boeing B-777s fleet,
In addition, Member States intend to
ensure further verification of effective compliance with
relevant safety standards through systematic ramp
inspections on this carrier.
there can be no further argument on this issue. here is a strong evidence that pia has wilfully neglected the upkeep of their b747 and a310 fleet to convince the media that new planes is the only solution. the pia trioka are still burning the midnight oil in diluting this eu saga which has brought nothing but shame and embarassement for pakistan and its people.