More delays by PIA
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More delays by PIA
Asallaam alaikum,
Just wondering whats going on with PIA and delays on their T7 Routes? Just last night I dropped my uncle to the airport after hearing that the flight was running 3hrs late on departure due to 7hr delay on the incoming flight to JFK. THe Schedueled Dep time was 8:30P.M. which was delayed to 11:30P.M. The flight was PK718/14Jan07
While there I also heard that the flight from the previos night with the same schedueled departure time actually started boarding at 05:30A.M. the following morning.
Whats going on in the 777 routes?
Just wondering whats going on with PIA and delays on their T7 Routes? Just last night I dropped my uncle to the airport after hearing that the flight was running 3hrs late on departure due to 7hr delay on the incoming flight to JFK. THe Schedueled Dep time was 8:30P.M. which was delayed to 11:30P.M. The flight was PK718/14Jan07
While there I also heard that the flight from the previos night with the same schedueled departure time actually started boarding at 05:30A.M. the following morning.
Whats going on in the 777 routes?
Salem Aziz
GF: A340, B767 AA: AB6 KU: B772 ER, AB6, A320 LH: B744, A343 EK: A345, B772, A332 PK: B74M, B743, B772 MH: A330 E4: DC9 QR: B77W, A332. PA: A320
GF: A340, B767 AA: AB6 KU: B772 ER, AB6, A320 LH: B744, A343 EK: A345, B772, A332 PK: B74M, B743, B772 MH: A330 E4: DC9 QR: B77W, A332. PA: A320
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There are no EU restrictions on any particular type or model of aircraft. Restrictions apply to maintenance failures. Maint. deficiencies noted during ramp inspections not being rectified is reason for restrictions and for PK not operating certain aircraft to EU.Most of these delays are happening after the EU restrictions of 743s not to be used there, now mostly T7s have taken up that route and so the delays are there.
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I was precisely talking about 743s that PIA have that they cannot be used there these days and most likely T7s are replacing them causing delays to other flights.zerbaer wrote:There are no EU restrictions on any particular type or model of aircraft. Restrictions apply to maintenance failures. Maint. deficiencies noted during ramp inspections not being rectified is reason for restrictions and for PK not operating certain aircraft to EU.Most of these delays are happening after the EU restrictions of 743s not to be used there, now mostly T7s have taken up that route and so the delays are there.
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I thought that this issue with the B74s has been completed already no? If not maybe somebody can provide an update on what is currently going on with the 74s and having them meet the EU standards?
Salem Aziz
GF: A340, B767 AA: AB6 KU: B772 ER, AB6, A320 LH: B744, A343 EK: A345, B772, A332 PK: B74M, B743, B772 MH: A330 E4: DC9 QR: B77W, A332. PA: A320
GF: A340, B767 AA: AB6 KU: B772 ER, AB6, A320 LH: B744, A343 EK: A345, B772, A332 PK: B74M, B743, B772 MH: A330 E4: DC9 QR: B77W, A332. PA: A320
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After some research, this is what I found. EASA banned some A310s and all the B747s from entering Europe. Earlier reports said only five B747s were banned, but I think all of them were banned later on.Lufthansa Cargo wrote:I thought that this issue with the B74s has been completed already no? If not maybe somebody can provide an update on what is currently going on with the 74s and having them meet the EU standards?
Note: The following dates show when the aircraft was last seen in Europe, it does not necessarily reflect the last day of operation in Europe.
A310-300
AP-BDZ (Grounded since Nov. 21st after developing a problem with the autopilot. However, it has been declared fit to fly by Airbus. Don’t know if it can fly to Europe or not.)
AP-BEB (Last seen on Dec. 26th at FRA)
AP-BEC (Last seen on Dec. 22nd at MAN)
AP-BEQ (Last seen on Dec. 21st at CPH)
AP-BEU (Last seen on Nov. 12th at MAN carrying the Prime Minister of Pakistan)
AP-BGN (Last seen this month at LHR)
AP-BGO (Last seen on Jan. 13th at STN)
AP-BGP (Last seen on Dec. 29th at STR)
AP-BGR (Last seen on Dec. 17th at LHR)
AP-BGS (Last seen this month at LHR)
B747s
Currently only two B747s are allowed to fly to Europe. They are:
AP-BAT
AP-BGG
To summarize I think AP-BEG, AP-BEU, AP-BDZ and AP-BGQ still need to be fixed. Six out of the eight B747s also need to be fixed. I believe PK is busy with the Hajj flights, thats why the B747s are taking more time.
Edit: AP-BEU is allowed to fly to Europe. That leaves AP-BEG, AP-BDZ and AP-BGQ to be fixed out of all the A310s.
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AP-BFU is under EU compliance maintenance. It is expected to enter EU airspace in early february.Lufthansa Cargo wrote:I thought that this issue with the B74s has been completed already no? If not maybe somebody can provide an update on what is currently going on with the 74s and having them meet the EU standards?
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So rather than changing their schedueled times they rather incur delays and pay the fines not only resulting in more money losses to airport fines but also loss of customers due to not being on time and them not being able to scheduel their trips accordingly?
PIA's APBIC started express ops but they should have used it on the long haul instead. I think that they should pull it from the domestic routes. Dont you guys think? It may not fix the delay problems but it might reduce the hours on delays.
This upgrading to EU standards is taking a major toll on PIA ops. Maybe they should use chartered a/c untill they fix the remaining fleet, no? During long term technicals airliners such as Aer Lingus used North American 767s and Europian airline 747-200s in place of A330-200s.
They are going to have to do something about this lets just hope whatever they do is for the better for PIA because according to my uncle who works for PIA in their offices in KHI, PIA is going down big time.
Hopefully they will privatize in time without any further major losses.
Regards,
PIA's APBIC started express ops but they should have used it on the long haul instead. I think that they should pull it from the domestic routes. Dont you guys think? It may not fix the delay problems but it might reduce the hours on delays.
This upgrading to EU standards is taking a major toll on PIA ops. Maybe they should use chartered a/c untill they fix the remaining fleet, no? During long term technicals airliners such as Aer Lingus used North American 767s and Europian airline 747-200s in place of A330-200s.
They are going to have to do something about this lets just hope whatever they do is for the better for PIA because according to my uncle who works for PIA in their offices in KHI, PIA is going down big time.
Hopefully they will privatize in time without any further major losses.
Regards,
Salem Aziz
GF: A340, B767 AA: AB6 KU: B772 ER, AB6, A320 LH: B744, A343 EK: A345, B772, A332 PK: B74M, B743, B772 MH: A330 E4: DC9 QR: B77W, A332. PA: A320
GF: A340, B767 AA: AB6 KU: B772 ER, AB6, A320 LH: B744, A343 EK: A345, B772, A332 PK: B74M, B743, B772 MH: A330 E4: DC9 QR: B77W, A332. PA: A320
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"This upgrading to EU standards...." What airworthiness standards does PK meet/comply to? Is EASA not a EU organization? Isn't PK EASA 145 approved maintenance organization? Isn't CAA (Pak) approval of PK subject to EASA 145 regulations as enshrined in PK's Maint. Organization Exposition (MOE) submitted to CAA? How much time & someone else's money has it cost for the EASA approval & its renewals every six months? Was there any compulsion for PK to go for EASA 145 approval? As PK is unable to maintain its own aircraft to EASA regulations, how can it do it for third parties?This upgrading to EU standards is taking a major toll on PIA ops. Maybe they should use chartered a/c untill they fix the remaining fleet, no? During long term technicals airliners such as Aer Lingus used North American 767s and Europian airline 747-200s in place of A330-200s.