New Release: PIA B777-240LR made by Risesoon! scale 1/200

samee380 · Post by **samee380** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 7:48 pm

BTW, the thar or lahore tails is the skymarks one

samee380 · Post by **samee380** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:48 am

this is the risesoon website click on the A380 and you can see the PIA and can contact risesoon for info

http://www.risesoon.com.tw/

samee380 · Post by **samee380** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:01 am

here are the pics of the model definately a LR as look at PAX windows

looks nice

beautiful

fantastic

and finally

definately going to get this model

samee380 · Post by **samee380** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:03 am

but on the right side of the model the PAX windows are wrong two windows are missing near the 2nd door.

compare it to the left one

so its half LR and ER

samee380 · Post by **samee380** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:02 pm

actually it has been confirmed by risesoon that this is a B777-200ER. this is really strange as it is a LR in real life

Moin · Post by **Moin** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:17 pm

If you're referring to the 2 extra windows fore and aft of L2 on the port side of this model, I'm pretty sure PIA's 200ER's have them missing on both sides of the a/c and it isn't exclusive to the LR. Can someone check a few close up pics of the ER to be sure?

The lack of the raked wingtips make this model a 200ER full and final. The registration is incorrect probably due to the fact that they used the same fuselage and colors for the 'earlier' 200LR model which featured the raked wingtips and 2 provincial tail choices and now they simply added ER wings to this model and didn't bother changing the registration. The reason for this change could be that the earlier correct LR model was made exclusively for PIA and not for public sale and this ER is what is now going to be released for public sale. These manufacturers sometimes make corporate models exclusively for the airline and not for the public. I have a 1/200 Risesoon EK A345 which was made exclusively or EK and bought it on e-bay where I only found a few more of them. I also have a Flight Miniatures 1/200 RJ A342 made exclusively for RJ and not included in the Flight Miniatures catalogs and I bought it from someone in China and the only other model I found of that was in a travel agency.

So its highly likely that the earlier correct PIA 777LR was made in limited numbers for PIA and this newer 777ER is being made for sale to the public. They are 2 different models.

samee380 · Post by **samee380** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:24 pm

from looking at some phots the ER has those windows covered up and the LR has the windows shown.

look here this is an 777LR and the window in front of the second door window is covered by a white thing and the window behind the door is shown. why is this? why do they cover up the window like that?

and this is a ER and the windows are present but this time both of them are covered?

this is very confusing can somebody help us here who knows everything about the 777's

samee380 · Post by **samee380** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:25 pm

but why have they shown on one side of the model the two windows and not on the other?

samee380 · Post by **samee380** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:28 pm

moin said "the 'earlier' 200LR model which featured the raked wingtips and 2 provincial tail choices"

didnt have no registration?

samee380 · Post by **samee380** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:34 pm

actually moin you could be right i have been comparing photos of the skymarks and the risesoon model and they are very similar but the skymarks is missing the reg maybe it does have the reg on the skymarks and the one they have shown in the photo is a sample and unfinished model.

Moin · Post by **Moin** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:03 am

BTW Skymarks and Risesoon are one and the same company. Skymarks is their brand name and Risesoon is the name of the manufacturer. I have their 1/200 AI 777, BA 777, VS A346, DL ERJ, Aer Lingus A332, AA A300-600, Boeing World Plane 773ER and am currently contemplating the Lan Chile A343 and all of them have the Skymarks box and some of the boxes have 'Manufactured by Rise Soon' printed on them. So the moulds are the same.

As for the blanks where the windows should be, thats where the window openings are located on the actual aircraft fuselage and depending on the airline, a good number of them can be blanked out. Some airlines will place additional toilets in that location, others will have a galley there and so on, hence as there will be no pax seats in that location, theres no point in having windows, so they're sealed up. If you look at a few 777's of different airlines, you'll notice that some of them have those windows there, some don't. Take a look at some pics of KLM's 743's and 744's which have the entire Zone B on the starboard side of the a/c blanked out because they have a longitudinal galley in that location. As does Garuda on their 744's. Also check out a few A340's. Alot of the windows fore and aft of L2 and R2 are blanked out as they have placed toilets in place of pax seats there. PIA's 743's have a few windows blanked out by L2 and R2 as well.

Many models which I have purchased in 1/200 and 1/250 scale came with all the original indows in place, so what I did was to look at a picture of the actual a/c of that airline and with an emery board, gently rub out those extra windows which the airline had deleted.

Coming back to this model. Its made by the same mould and same company. The earlier one was as I said probably a corporate promotional model made for PIA exclusively OR its possible that PIA told them to put the flag on the tail instead of the provincial theme as they haven't yet confirmed what theme to paint the tails of the 777's (we thought they had 4 themes, then along came Karachi, Green Turtle Waters. There could be an Islamabad, The green model city, or even a Murree theme in the works)OR, and this is probably the most logical explanation, that they decided to dispense with the idea of having 2 different types of tail themes as they can only replicate one a/c with one registration mark and two different tails will require two different registrations and captions i.e. one Lahore, another Thar, each having its own unique caption and thus its more cost effective to just make one model with the simple flag on the tail rather than make 2 different models with 2 different tails with no caption. The BGY registration is probably there from the time they planned on doing the LR but as it appears they will be doing the ER now, they aern't going to bother changing the registration. It was a sample model.

So that should be clear now. One model, one registration, one tail. The LR's are not painted in the new theme yet and might not be for a while, hence it was just a guess that they MIGHT be painted with either Thar or Lahore tails and as you can have only one caption, it didn't work out, and the reason for the switch from LR to ER could be the fact that PIA told them that they might not be having these a/c in their fleet for much longer aka SIA 773ER swap, but thats just a guess.

The one good thing is that they have drastically improved the engines on the 772's. If you look at the engines of their earlier 772 models, they not quite correct, but these are the correct 772LR/773ER type engines.

samee380 · Post by **samee380** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:06 am

thanks moin for making me sure of that

but u said 'Many models which I have purchased in 1/200 and 1/250 scale came with all the original windows in place, so what I did was to look at a picture of the actual a/c of that airline and with an emery board, gently rub out those extra windows which the airline had deleted.'

what is an emery board and where can u get one from. also which models have you did this with?

Moin · Post by **Moin** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:26 am

Well some of those models are not available anymore. They were made by this British company called Wooster in 1/250 scale. I can't recall exactly how many models I bought of theirs but there were many such as the CP 742, GF L-1011, B.Cal 742, BA 742, ANZ 742, CO 742, AA 777, CO 777, BA 777, Air Malta A320, KL MD-11, SR MD-11, SV 743, QF 743, El Al 742F, UL A320, BMI A321, AI, UA, Garuda, Cargolux, NW, RB, VS, SAA, AF, JAL and El Al 744's etc etc. I have more but cannot remember off the top of my head. They're not in business anymore and the new company using their name that also makes models uses different moulds. The above are some of my very first models I got back in the 80's and very rare and hard to find now.

The other models were made in 1/200 by PPC in Holland of which I bought models like the KU, TK and AC A343, UA 772, SV L-1011, SU A313, RJ A313, Air Atlantis 733, Nordic 734, Lynjeflyg 735 etc.

Alot of these came with all the windows printed on so I took a nail file aka emery board and just gently rubbed out the windows that were deleted on the actual a/c.

samee380 · Post by **samee380** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:25 pm

yep ive got the wooster BA 747 AND 777

samee380 · Post by **samee380** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:37 pm

ha ha

got a reply from risesoon again and they said:

Dear Samee,

We are very sorry for making a mistake on last mail. The type of PIA777-200 is '' LR'' not '' ER''.

If you want to order one model that will be made accord your requirement, we have to charge higher price.Because we have to re-produce formwork to meet your request,it costs about US$300.

If you have any question,please feel free to inform us.

Best Regards,

Charles

it looks like they make models which you would like to request? thats cool. i have given them a list of making some more PIA

but very expensive