Two Indian Air Force Aircraft Shot Down by Pakistan Air Force

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Re: Two Indian Air Force Aircraft Shot Down by Pakistan Air Force

Post by uzkt01 » Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:35 pm

Could this be that other 2 pilots were from F-16B or D which India is consistently claiming to have shot with Mig-21.


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Post by uzkt01 » Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:29 pm

So as per the narrator if SU-30 was downed with AIM-120, this contradicts the narrative of ISPR that no F-16 was used in whole engagement.

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Re: Two Indian Air Force Aircraft Shot Down by Pakistan Air Force

Post by reverse-thrust » Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:47 pm

The fact that the made in Pakistan JF 17 block 2 brought down a Mig 21 and SU30MKI is too much for Indians to face and that's why they are screaming whatever they can to stem embarrassment.

JF-17 thunder is capable of both AMRAAM and ASRAAM. Why it is being assumed that F-16 is needed to use AIM 120C?

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Re: Two Indian Air Force Aircraft Shot Down by Pakistan Air Force

Post by uzkt01 » Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:43 pm

The BVR missile for JF-17 is Chinese SD-10 not AIM-120.

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Re: Two Indian Air Force Aircraft Shot Down by Pakistan Air Force

Post by reverse-thrust » Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:25 pm

Indians are the biggest liers! Only Presenting a piece of crap painted in some sort of paint factory as evidence is not acceptable. I have heard from reliable source that the serial number written on wreckage shown by India doesn't belong to Pakistan. PAF used AMRAAM by Jf-17. India is trying to save its face only on the basis of lies. They started all conflicts based on lies. They lied about "Pulwama attack", they lied about 300+ killings in Pak territory, they lied about F16 and the lies continues...

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Re: Two Indian Air Force Aircraft Shot Down by Pakistan Air Force

Post by Abbas Ali » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:20 pm

According to news sources:

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* The IAF MiG-21 was shot down by PAF aircraft piloted by Squadron Leader Hasan Siddiqi.

* The other IAF aircraft was shot down by PAF aircraft piloted by Wing Commander Nauman Ali Khan. Details of this second IAF aircraft shot down by PAF will emerge soon.

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Re: Two Indian Air Force Aircraft Shot Down by Pakistan Air Force

Post by saqib » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:55 pm

Does anyone know to which squadron did the PAF Jets belong to ? need to ask as making a project

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Re: Two Indian Air Force Aircraft Shot Down by Pakistan Air Force

Post by Tuti Fruiti » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:39 am

reverse-thrust wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:25 pm
Indians are the biggest liers! Only Presenting a piece of crap painted in some sort of paint factory as evidence is not acceptable. I have heard from reliable source that the serial number written on wreckage shown by India doesn't belong to Pakistan. PAF used AMRAAM by Jf-17. India is trying to save its face only on the basis of lies. They started all conflicts based on lies. They lied about "Pulwama attack", they lied about 300+ killings in Pak territory, they lied about F16 and the lies continues...

and will continue..........

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Re: Two Indian Air Force Aircraft Shot Down by Pakistan Air Force

Post by Tuti Fruiti » Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:22 am

reverse-thrust wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:25 pm
Indians are the biggest liers! Only Presenting a piece of crap painted in some sort of paint factory as evidence is not acceptable. I have heard from reliable source that the serial number written on wreckage shown by India doesn't belong to Pakistan. PAF used AMRAAM by Jf-17. India is trying to save its face only on the basis of lies. They started all conflicts based on lies. They lied about "Pulwama attack", they lied about 300+ killings in Pak territory, they lied about F16 and the lies continues...
now they claim Pak drone shot down. Again , highly likely another fake news.
''''Monday’s attempted air-intrusion was over Anupgarh that is located along the International Border a few kilometers east of Bahawalpur'''''

The reality is Bahawalpur is 150 km to the border.

anyhow,

The main concern regarding aviation( which one hope turns out wrong concern in future) is that , that Pak airspace becomes like airspace of Iraq as an example. It is avoided still by a certain set of airlines and will likely remain so or at worst like Eastern Ukraine. Will this latest escalation have impact on British airways or possibly other EU airlines like AIr France or Lufthansa which might be interested in future?? Opening of Isb airport, soaring traffic of MUX, LYP and Sialkot, resumption of British AIrways , govt review of aviation policy etc were very positive news and all of sudden this crisis for which govt have to take those measures...

The long lasting effect of it still have to be seen

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... 7P9EL.html

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Re: Two Indian Air Force Aircraft Shot Down by Pakistan Air Force

Post by Abbas Ali » Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:13 pm

Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi says F-16 issue is sensitive and will talk about it when needed.

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According to DG ISPR, two IAF aircraft were shot down by Pakistan. One IAF pilot died, the other pilot was captured and released later.

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Re: Two Indian Air Force Aircraft Shot Down by Pakistan Air Force

Post by Abbas Ali » Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:21 am

The IAF MiG-21 flown by Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman was hit by an AIM-120C missile launched from a PAF F-16 flown by Wing Commander Nauman Ali Khan.

Info Source and Details Here: http://kaiser-aeronaut.blogspot.com/201 ... imper.html

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Re: Two Indian Air Force Aircraft Shot Down by Pakistan Air Force

Post by uzkt01 » Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:35 pm

This article makes things more confusing. ISPR said NO F16 use in engagement, a JF17 aircraft was decorated with its first kill, yet this article says F16 shot Indian airplanes. This doesn't add up. Also what about the other Indian pilot they claimed to have captured? If he was killed where is his body?

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Post by Abbas Ali » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:59 pm

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Sitara-e-Jurrat to be awarded to Pakistan Air Force (PAF) Wing Commander Nauman Ali Khan for shooting down Indian Air Force (IAF) MiG-21 flown by Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman.

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Tamgha-e-Jurrat to be awarded to PAF Squadron Leader Hassan Mahmood Siddiqui for shooting down IAF aircraft that fell in Kashmir controlled by India.

Tamgha-e-Jurrat to be awarded to PAF Group Captain Faheem Ahmed.

The investiture ceremony of these awards will take place on Pakistan Day, March, 23, 2020.

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Re: Two Indian Air Force Aircraft Shot Down by Pakistan Air Force

Post by Abbas Ali » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:57 pm

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Wing Commander Nauman Ali Khan and Squadron Leader Hassan Mahmood Siddiqui in a programme dedicated to Pakistan's air warriors.

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