Air Karachi will be leasing high quality aircrafts, as of now they will be leasing a A330 from Malaysia Airlines for domestic routes.Averagespotter wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 7:52 amOh that's interesting. I wasn't aware of Air Karachi's fleet choice. Do you know what other aircraft types they plan on leasing?PIA330 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:03 amUnderstandable, AirSial should think of getting A321xlr if they enough money to buy it.Averagespotter wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 12:42 amThis is from September 2023. I doubt they'd want to get themselves into the wide body aircraft mess like Shaheen air and Serene air did. Added to that the fact that all airlines are struggling to get new aircraft and airsial still waiting on its a320s is enough to indicate that this plan is unlikely to materialise anytime soon.PIA330 wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 11:30 pmdanyal77W wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:52 pmAirSial is not inducting A330 anytime soon. They have four more A320s to be delivered on dry leases.PIA330 wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:19 pm AirSial will be inducting a A330 anytime soon.
Can't wait to see that happen.
As we remember AirSial initiated the recruitment of A330 crew last year.![]()
Edit: fixed a spelling error
Air Karachi is dry leasing a A330-900 from Malaysia Airlines. Operations are suppose to start soon.
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its a A333 for domestic route from Malaysia Airlines.HassanKhan wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 8:29 amUnlikely. Every new airline in Pakistan has to serve domestically for one or two years to gain the confidence of the ministries to allow to them to operate international flights. It is unlikely this airline would need an A339 in a domestic flight like KHI-ISB.PIA330 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:03 amUnderstandable, AirSial should think of getting A321xlr if they enough money to buy it.Averagespotter wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 12:42 amThis is from September 2023. I doubt they'd want to get themselves into the wide body aircraft mess like Shaheen air and Serene air did. Added to that the fact that all airlines are struggling to get new aircraft and airsial still waiting on its a320s is enough to indicate that this plan is unlikely to materialise anytime soon.PIA330 wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 11:30 pmdanyal77W wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:52 pmAirSial is not inducting A330 anytime soon. They have four more A320s to be delivered on dry leases.PIA330 wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:19 pm AirSial will be inducting a A330 anytime soon.
Can't wait to see that happen.
As we remember AirSial initiated the recruitment of A330 crew last year.![]()
Edit: fixed a spelling error
Air Karachi is dry leasing a A330-900 from Malaysia Airlines. Operations are suppose to start soon.
Also Malaysia Airlines just got these A339s and are a main component of their fleet why would they want to lease them out?

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The businessmen are inexperienced, but let keep in mind about the management will be former PIA pilots, board of directors and Air Chief Marshals from the PAF.danyal77W wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 2:21 pmThis cannot be true, given A330-900s are newer aircrafts at Malaysia Airlines, and ofcourse leasing them would be a lot of expense for a new Pakistani startup like Air Karachi which will be run by businessmen, who clearly do not have any expertise in aviation markets, until and unless they hire an expert team. So this clearly does not make sense and is highly unlikely as long as valid and reliable sources are mentioned claiming your statements.PIA330 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:03 amUnderstandable, AirSial should think of getting A321xlr if they enough money to buy it.Averagespotter wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 12:42 amThis is from September 2023. I doubt they'd want to get themselves into the wide body aircraft mess like Shaheen air and Serene air did. Added to that the fact that all airlines are struggling to get new aircraft and airsial still waiting on its a320s is enough to indicate that this plan is unlikely to materialise anytime soon.PIA330 wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 11:30 pmdanyal77W wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:52 pmAirSial is not inducting A330 anytime soon. They have four more A320s to be delivered on dry leases.PIA330 wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:19 pm AirSial will be inducting a A330 anytime soon.
Can't wait to see that happen.
As we remember AirSial initiated the recruitment of A330 crew last year.![]()
Edit: fixed a spelling error
Air Karachi is dry leasing a A330-900 from Malaysia Airlines. Operations are suppose to start soon.
Coming back to a startup airline being run by businessmen inexperienced in Aviation sector, one can clearly see the difference in how AirSial and FlyJinnah are being run, with FlyJinnah clearly leading the game.

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You may had remember after the 1st attempt of PIA's Privatization which had failed, Karachi Businessmen were talking about making a their own airline. The main person making it is Hanif Gohar, a real estate agent building the Hilton Garden Inn in Hyderabad Sindh. He is doing a Saad Nazir style setup, promoting Real Estate into tourism. Lets say in a better way, with money.danyal77W wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 2:31 pm Considering Air Karachi, lets look at that unprofessional livery, that logo, and those marketing styles on their social media platforms. Complete mess and unprofessional attitude.

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PIA330 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 2:42 pmits a A333 for domestic route from Malaysia Airlines.HassanKhan wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 8:29 amUnlikely. Every new airline in Pakistan has to serve domestically for one or two years to gain the confidence of the ministries to allow to them to operate international flights. It is unlikely this airline would need an A339 in a domestic flight like KHI-ISB.PIA330 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:03 amUnderstandable, AirSial should think of getting A321xlr if they enough money to buy it.Averagespotter wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 12:42 amThis is from September 2023. I doubt they'd want to get themselves into the wide body aircraft mess like Shaheen air and Serene air did. Added to that the fact that all airlines are struggling to get new aircraft and airsial still waiting on its a320s is enough to indicate that this plan is unlikely to materialise anytime soon.PIA330 wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 11:30 pmdanyal77W wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:52 pmAirSial is not inducting A330 anytime soon. They have four more A320s to be delivered on dry leases.PIA330 wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:19 pm AirSial will be inducting a A330 anytime soon.
Can't wait to see that happen.
As we remember AirSial initiated the recruitment of A330 crew last year.![]()
Edit: fixed a spelling error
Air Karachi is dry leasing a A330-900 from Malaysia Airlines. Operations are suppose to start soon.
Also Malaysia Airlines just got these A339s and are a main component of their fleet why would they want to lease them out?
Any source? I’d bet everything that they won’t start operations with Malaysia Airlines A330s.
Based on their recent LinkedIn hiring posts, it seems likely they’ll start operations with the A320.
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Well my personal sources, told me Air Karachi is Dry leasing about 1 or 2 A330 from Malaysia Airlines. They will be going domestic first, and then their first international could be Dubai.Safwan Waqas wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 4:18 pmPIA330 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 2:42 pmits a A333 for domestic route from Malaysia Airlines.HassanKhan wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 8:29 amUnlikely. Every new airline in Pakistan has to serve domestically for one or two years to gain the confidence of the ministries to allow to them to operate international flights. It is unlikely this airline would need an A339 in a domestic flight like KHI-ISB.PIA330 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:03 amUnderstandable, AirSial should think of getting A321xlr if they enough money to buy it.Averagespotter wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 12:42 amThis is from September 2023. I doubt they'd want to get themselves into the wide body aircraft mess like Shaheen air and Serene air did. Added to that the fact that all airlines are struggling to get new aircraft and airsial still waiting on its a320s is enough to indicate that this plan is unlikely to materialise anytime soon.PIA330 wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 11:30 pmdanyal77W wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:52 pmAirSial is not inducting A330 anytime soon. They have four more A320s to be delivered on dry leases.PIA330 wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:19 pm AirSial will be inducting a A330 anytime soon.
Can't wait to see that happen.
As we remember AirSial initiated the recruitment of A330 crew last year.![]()
Edit: fixed a spelling error
Air Karachi is dry leasing a A330-900 from Malaysia Airlines. Operations are suppose to start soon.
Also Malaysia Airlines just got these A339s and are a main component of their fleet why would they want to lease them out?
Any source? I’d bet everything that they won’t start operations with Malaysia Airlines A330s.
Based on their recent LinkedIn hiring posts, it seems likely they’ll start operations with the A320.
Air Karachi operations may start in Summers of 2025 or start of 2026.

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Using Serene Air as a case study, we can conclude that the A330 is clearly too big for domestic operations in Pakistan.PIA330 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 2:42 pmits a A333 for domestic route from Malaysia Airlines.HassanKhan wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 8:29 amUnlikely. Every new airline in Pakistan has to serve domestically for one or two years to gain the confidence of the ministries to allow to them to operate international flights. It is unlikely this airline would need an A339 in a domestic flight like KHI-ISB.PIA330 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:03 amUnderstandable, AirSial should think of getting A321xlr if they enough money to buy it.Averagespotter wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 12:42 amThis is from September 2023. I doubt they'd want to get themselves into the wide body aircraft mess like Shaheen air and Serene air did. Added to that the fact that all airlines are struggling to get new aircraft and airsial still waiting on its a320s is enough to indicate that this plan is unlikely to materialise anytime soon.PIA330 wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 11:30 pmdanyal77W wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:52 pmAirSial is not inducting A330 anytime soon. They have four more A320s to be delivered on dry leases.PIA330 wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:19 pm AirSial will be inducting a A330 anytime soon.
Can't wait to see that happen.
As we remember AirSial initiated the recruitment of A330 crew last year.![]()
Edit: fixed a spelling error
Air Karachi is dry leasing a A330-900 from Malaysia Airlines. Operations are suppose to start soon.
Also Malaysia Airlines just got these A339s and are a main component of their fleet why would they want to lease them out?
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Can you cite your sources?PIA330 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 4:34 pmWell my personal sources, told me Air Karachi is Dry leasing about 1 or 2 A330 from Malaysia Airlines. They will be going domestic first, and then their first international could be Dubai.Safwan Waqas wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 4:18 pmPIA330 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 2:42 pmits a A333 for domestic route from Malaysia Airlines.HassanKhan wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 8:29 amUnlikely. Every new airline in Pakistan has to serve domestically for one or two years to gain the confidence of the ministries to allow to them to operate international flights. It is unlikely this airline would need an A339 in a domestic flight like KHI-ISB.PIA330 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:03 amUnderstandable, AirSial should think of getting A321xlr if they enough money to buy it.Averagespotter wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 12:42 amThis is from September 2023. I doubt they'd want to get themselves into the wide body aircraft mess like Shaheen air and Serene air did. Added to that the fact that all airlines are struggling to get new aircraft and airsial still waiting on its a320s is enough to indicate that this plan is unlikely to materialise anytime soon.PIA330 wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 11:30 pmdanyal77W wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:52 pmAirSial is not inducting A330 anytime soon. They have four more A320s to be delivered on dry leases.PIA330 wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:19 pm AirSial will be inducting a A330 anytime soon.
Can't wait to see that happen.
As we remember AirSial initiated the recruitment of A330 crew last year.![]()
Edit: fixed a spelling error
Air Karachi is dry leasing a A330-900 from Malaysia Airlines. Operations are suppose to start soon.
Also Malaysia Airlines just got these A339s and are a main component of their fleet why would they want to lease them out?
Any source? I’d bet everything that they won’t start operations with Malaysia Airlines A330s.
Based on their recent LinkedIn hiring posts, it seems likely they’ll start operations with the A320.
Air Karachi operations may start in Summers of 2025 or start of 2026.
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someone I know in the aviation industry told me about this.HassanKhan wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 5:13 pmCan you cite your sources?PIA330 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 4:34 pmWell my personal sources, told me Air Karachi is Dry leasing about 1 or 2 A330 from Malaysia Airlines. They will be going domestic first, and then their first international could be Dubai.Safwan Waqas wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 4:18 pmPIA330 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 2:42 pmits a A333 for domestic route from Malaysia Airlines.HassanKhan wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 8:29 amUnlikely. Every new airline in Pakistan has to serve domestically for one or two years to gain the confidence of the ministries to allow to them to operate international flights. It is unlikely this airline would need an A339 in a domestic flight like KHI-ISB.PIA330 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:03 amUnderstandable, AirSial should think of getting A321xlr if they enough money to buy it.Averagespotter wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 12:42 amThis is from September 2023. I doubt they'd want to get themselves into the wide body aircraft mess like Shaheen air and Serene air did. Added to that the fact that all airlines are struggling to get new aircraft and airsial still waiting on its a320s is enough to indicate that this plan is unlikely to materialise anytime soon.PIA330 wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 11:30 pmdanyal77W wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:52 pmAirSial is not inducting A330 anytime soon. They have four more A320s to be delivered on dry leases.PIA330 wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:19 pm AirSial will be inducting a A330 anytime soon.
Can't wait to see that happen.
As we remember AirSial initiated the recruitment of A330 crew last year.![]()
Edit: fixed a spelling error
Air Karachi is dry leasing a A330-900 from Malaysia Airlines. Operations are suppose to start soon.
Also Malaysia Airlines just got these A339s and are a main component of their fleet why would they want to lease them out?
Any source? I’d bet everything that they won’t start operations with Malaysia Airlines A330s.
Based on their recent LinkedIn hiring posts, it seems likely they’ll start operations with the A320.
Air Karachi operations may start in Summers of 2025 or start of 2026.

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PIA330 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 2:54 pmThe businessmen are inexperienced, but let keep in mind about the management will be former PIA pilots, board of directors and Air Chief Marshals from the PAF.danyal77W wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 2:21 pmThis cannot be true, given A330-900s are newer aircrafts at Malaysia Airlines, and ofcourse leasing them would be a lot of expense for a new Pakistani startup like Air Karachi which will be run by businessmen, who clearly do not have any expertise in aviation markets, until and unless they hire an expert team. So this clearly does not make sense and is highly unlikely as long as valid and reliable sources are mentioned claiming your statements.PIA330 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:03 amUnderstandable, AirSial should think of getting A321xlr if they enough money to buy it.Averagespotter wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 12:42 amThis is from September 2023. I doubt they'd want to get themselves into the wide body aircraft mess like Shaheen air and Serene air did. Added to that the fact that all airlines are struggling to get new aircraft and airsial still waiting on its a320s is enough to indicate that this plan is unlikely to materialise anytime soon.PIA330 wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 11:30 pmdanyal77W wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:52 pmAirSial is not inducting A330 anytime soon. They have four more A320s to be delivered on dry leases.PIA330 wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:19 pm AirSial will be inducting a A330 anytime soon.
Can't wait to see that happen.
As we remember AirSial initiated the recruitment of A330 crew last year.![]()
Edit: fixed a spelling error
Air Karachi is dry leasing a A330-900 from Malaysia Airlines. Operations are suppose to start soon.
Coming back to a startup airline being run by businessmen inexperienced in Aviation sector, one can clearly see the difference in how AirSial and FlyJinnah are being run, with FlyJinnah clearly leading the game.
I am sorry to say but this is even worse. We have seen what has happened to PIA.
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I wish Air Karachi Success.danyal77W wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 5:38 pmPIA330 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 2:54 pmThe businessmen are inexperienced, but let keep in mind about the management will be former PIA pilots, board of directors and Air Chief Marshals from the PAF.danyal77W wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 2:21 pmThis cannot be true, given A330-900s are newer aircrafts at Malaysia Airlines, and ofcourse leasing them would be a lot of expense for a new Pakistani startup like Air Karachi which will be run by businessmen, who clearly do not have any expertise in aviation markets, until and unless they hire an expert team. So this clearly does not make sense and is highly unlikely as long as valid and reliable sources are mentioned claiming your statements.PIA330 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:03 amUnderstandable, AirSial should think of getting A321xlr if they enough money to buy it.Averagespotter wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 12:42 amThis is from September 2023. I doubt they'd want to get themselves into the wide body aircraft mess like Shaheen air and Serene air did. Added to that the fact that all airlines are struggling to get new aircraft and airsial still waiting on its a320s is enough to indicate that this plan is unlikely to materialise anytime soon.PIA330 wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 11:30 pmdanyal77W wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:52 pmAirSial is not inducting A330 anytime soon. They have four more A320s to be delivered on dry leases.PIA330 wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:19 pm AirSial will be inducting a A330 anytime soon.
Can't wait to see that happen.
As we remember AirSial initiated the recruitment of A330 crew last year.![]()
Edit: fixed a spelling error
Air Karachi is dry leasing a A330-900 from Malaysia Airlines. Operations are suppose to start soon.
Coming back to a startup airline being run by businessmen inexperienced in Aviation sector, one can clearly see the difference in how AirSial and FlyJinnah are being run, with FlyJinnah clearly leading the game.
I am sorry to say but this is even worse. We have seen what has happened to PIA.

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I thought that i will read the inputs about AirSial fleet as the topic said, but this thread has been hijacked by AirKarachiPIA330 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 6:16 pmI wish Air Karachi Success.danyal77W wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 5:38 pmPIA330 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 2:54 pmThe businessmen are inexperienced, but let keep in mind about the management will be former PIA pilots, board of directors and Air Chief Marshals from the PAF.danyal77W wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 2:21 pmThis cannot be true, given A330-900s are newer aircrafts at Malaysia Airlines, and ofcourse leasing them would be a lot of expense for a new Pakistani startup like Air Karachi which will be run by businessmen, who clearly do not have any expertise in aviation markets, until and unless they hire an expert team. So this clearly does not make sense and is highly unlikely as long as valid and reliable sources are mentioned claiming your statements.PIA330 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:03 amUnderstandable, AirSial should think of getting A321xlr if they enough money to buy it.Averagespotter wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 12:42 amThis is from September 2023. I doubt they'd want to get themselves into the wide body aircraft mess like Shaheen air and Serene air did. Added to that the fact that all airlines are struggling to get new aircraft and airsial still waiting on its a320s is enough to indicate that this plan is unlikely to materialise anytime soon.PIA330 wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 11:30 pmdanyal77W wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:52 pmAirSial is not inducting A330 anytime soon. They have four more A320s to be delivered on dry leases.PIA330 wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:19 pm AirSial will be inducting a A330 anytime soon.
Can't wait to see that happen.
As we remember AirSial initiated the recruitment of A330 crew last year.![]()
Edit: fixed a spelling error
Air Karachi is dry leasing a A330-900 from Malaysia Airlines. Operations are suppose to start soon.
Coming back to a startup airline being run by businessmen inexperienced in Aviation sector, one can clearly see the difference in how AirSial and FlyJinnah are being run, with FlyJinnah clearly leading the game.
I am sorry to say but this is even worse. We have seen what has happened to PIA.

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raihans wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 9:25 pmI thought that i will read the inputs about AirSial fleet as the topic said, but this thread has been hijacked by AirKarachiPIA330 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 6:16 pmI wish Air Karachi Success.danyal77W wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 5:38 pmPIA330 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 2:54 pmThe businessmen are inexperienced, but let keep in mind about the management will be former PIA pilots, board of directors and Air Chief Marshals from the PAF.danyal77W wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 2:21 pmThis cannot be true, given A330-900s are newer aircrafts at Malaysia Airlines, and ofcourse leasing them would be a lot of expense for a new Pakistani startup like Air Karachi which will be run by businessmen, who clearly do not have any expertise in aviation markets, until and unless they hire an expert team. So this clearly does not make sense and is highly unlikely as long as valid and reliable sources are mentioned claiming your statements.PIA330 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:03 amUnderstandable, AirSial should think of getting A321xlr if they enough money to buy it.Averagespotter wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 12:42 amThis is from September 2023. I doubt they'd want to get themselves into the wide body aircraft mess like Shaheen air and Serene air did. Added to that the fact that all airlines are struggling to get new aircraft and airsial still waiting on its a320s is enough to indicate that this plan is unlikely to materialise anytime soon.PIA330 wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 11:30 pmdanyal77W wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:52 pmAirSial is not inducting A330 anytime soon. They have four more A320s to be delivered on dry leases.PIA330 wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:19 pm AirSial will be inducting a A330 anytime soon.
Can't wait to see that happen.
As we remember AirSial initiated the recruitment of A330 crew last year.![]()
Edit: fixed a spelling error
Air Karachi is dry leasing a A330-900 from Malaysia Airlines. Operations are suppose to start soon.
Coming back to a startup airline being run by businessmen inexperienced in Aviation sector, one can clearly see the difference in how AirSial and FlyJinnah are being run, with FlyJinnah clearly leading the game.
I am sorry to say but this is even worse. We have seen what has happened to PIA.![]()


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