Air Crash Investigation Series 19 Episode 3 Titled "Kathmandu Descent"

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Re: Air Crash Investigation Series 19 Episode 3 Titled "Kathmandu Descent"

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pk363 wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:33 am
Airborne wrote:
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Jamshed wrote:
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Abbas Ali wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:13 pm
In the animation they showed Airbus A300-600 instead of Airbus A300B4-200 operated by PIA.

Abbas
Take it easy, man. Somehow, they did a good job by presenting this episode.
Buddy he is just sharing information not complaining about it. I also noticed they didn’t show or mention anything about a flight engineer in the cockpit, since B4 would have one.
I agree and i too noticed that they did not mention the flight engineers as there were two on the flight deck of ill fated AB4, the wikipedia page reads as follows:

There were two flight engineers on board (instead of one), one operating, and other observing. The operating flight engineer was an unnamed 40-year-old male who had 5,289 flight hours, with 2,516 of them on the Airbus A300. The observing flight engineer, 42-year-old Muhammad Ashraf, who had had 8220 flight hours, including 4,503 hours on the Airbus A300
They missed the 3 man in flight deck the Flight Engineer


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Re: Air Crash Investigation Series 19 Episode 3 Titled "Kathmandu Descent"

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Last time I met late second 2nd Flight engineer's name is F/E Riaz before he died crashed PK268 AP-BCP. He was F/E DC10 Malaysia Airlines for temporary before. My old friend Capt Jamali flew AP-BCP PK306/7 KHI-LHE-KHI on 27 September then my old friend Capt Zaidi & F/O S.A.Rizvi F/E Arif flew AP-BCP KHI-AUH-KHI before Capt Iftikhar Janjua & F/O Hasan flew AP-BCP crashed into KTM mountain. Capt. Jamali said that minor problem cockpit and PIA engineer fixed repaired cockpit but Capt Iftikhar Janjua did not know how to weight load approach KTM as Capt Iftikhar Janjua was faulty accident crashed KTM.

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Re: Air Crash Investigation Series 19 Episode 3 Titled "Kathmandu Descent"

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umar744 wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:40 am
Last time I met late second 2nd Flight engineer's name is F/E Riaz before he died crashed PK268 AP-BCP. He was F/E DC10 Malaysia Airlines for temporary before. My old friend Capt Jamali flew AP-BCP PK306/7 KHI-LHE-KHI on 27 September then my old friend Capt Zaidi & F/O S.A.Rizvi F/E Arif flew AP-BCP KHI-AUH-KHI before Capt Iftikhar Janjua & F/O Hasan flew AP-BCP crashed into KTM mountain. Capt. Jamali said that minor problem cockpit and PIA engineer fixed repaired cockpit but Capt Iftikhar Janjua did not know how to weight load approach KTM as Capt Iftikhar Janjua was faulty accident crashed KTM.
This is quit contrary to what was identified as rout cause of the accident? You are clearly blaming Capt Janjau for the accident for a reason that was not the one in the investigation reports, can you please elaborate further?

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Late Capt Iftikhar & F/O Hasan both should be responsible to prepare read paperwork before approach & landing because of dangerous mountains level. Last Dec 1993 I flew PIA with my old friend PIA pilot to Kathmandu and I saw PIA pilot read paperwork prepare double check before approach & landing then after took off from Kathmandu then PIA pilot carefully control pass overfly mountain and I photo picture of Mountain Everest way to DAC Dhaka. I have seen PIA AP-BCP Tail wreckage when we overfly mountain to approached landed Kathmandu and I saw TOWER AIR Boeing 747-100 in Kathmandu but my friend Lufthansa Captain B747-400 had been flew Boeing 747-400 landed Kathmandu before also my friend Concorde Captain pilot Concorde landed Kathmandu. AN124 Cargo landed Kathmandu also my friend F/O Aroosh Naqvi flew B747-300 landed Kathmandu. Turkish A333 crashed landed KTM runaway wrote off during fog. Thai DC8 ran over RWY in KTM wrote off.

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There is also a documentary on Airblue flight 202. A-321 Margalla Hills ISB. Comes up in youtube on 'The Flight Channel'. Was very informative.
4 engines 4 long-haul

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umar744 wrote:
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Late Capt Iftikhar & F/O Hasan both should be responsible to prepare read paperwork before approach & landing because of dangerous mountains level. Last Dec 1993 I flew PIA with my old friend PIA pilot to Kathmandu and I saw PIA pilot read paperwork prepare double check before approach & landing then after took off from Kathmandu then PIA pilot carefully control pass overfly mountain and I photo picture of Mountain Everest way to DAC Dhaka. I have seen PIA AP-BCP Tail wreckage when we overfly mountain to approached landed Kathmandu and I saw TOWER AIR Boeing 747-100 in Kathmandu but my friend Lufthansa Captain B747-400 had been flew Boeing 747-400 landed Kathmandu before also my friend Concorde Captain pilot Concorde landed Kathmandu. AN124 Cargo landed Kathmandu also my friend F/O Aroosh Naqvi flew B747-300 landed Kathmandu. Turkish A333 crashed landed KTM runaway wrote off during fog. Thai DC8 ran over RWY in KTM wrote off.
Totally disagree with you, Captain Janjua and F/O Hassan had landed the same equipment 7 times and 5 times respectively into Kathmandu, so to say that they had not done the paperwork is a ridiculous. The crash reasons have been well established, stated in the documentary as well so I need to repeat here

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I flew AP-BCP twice times. PIA bought it 2nd hand from Germany it built 1976 production line 25th

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Re: Air Crash Investigation Series 19 Episode 3 Titled "Kathmandu Descent"

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Does anyone know from where we can have the "official" report of PK-268? For where these Nat Geo people obtained it from?

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Pineapple wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:07 pm
There is also a documentary on Airblue flight 202. A-321 Margalla Hills ISB. Comes up in youtube on 'The Flight Channel'. Was very informative.
Can you pls share the link here brother? Thnx!

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Airborne wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:04 pm
Pineapple wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:07 pm
There is also a documentary on Airblue flight 202. A-321 Margalla Hills ISB. Comes up in youtube on 'The Flight Channel'. Was very informative.
Can you pls share the link here brother? Thnx!
Here you go sir


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pk363 wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:51 pm
Airborne wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:04 pm
Pineapple wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:07 pm
There is also a documentary on Airblue flight 202. A-321 Margalla Hills ISB. Comes up in youtube on 'The Flight Channel'. Was very informative.
Can you pls share the link here brother? Thnx!
Here you go sir

Thank you bud!