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Re: PIA to Return ATR 72 Aircraft to Leasing Company

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Since there is no refuelling at GIL/KDU/CJL it is not possible to operate direct flights to/from LHE. There will always have to be a stopover at ISB on the way back or vice versa.
The flying time between Lahore and these three cities will be maybe an extra 20 minutes compared to Islamabad.

i think the ATR72 could have carried enough fuel for a three hour flight from Lahore to the Northern Areas and back.

If the ATR72 has the range to fly nonstop from Muscat to Jeddah, I am sure it lift enough fuel along with payload to Lahore-Gilgit-Lahore flight.
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Amaad Lone wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:24 pm
Since there is no refuelling at GIL/KDU/CJL it is not possible to operate direct flights to/from LHE. There will always have to be a stopover at ISB on the way back or vice versa.
The flying time between Lahore and these three cities will be maybe an extra 20 minutes compared to Islamabad.

i think the ATR72 could have carried enough fuel for a three hour flight from Lahore to the Northern Areas and back.

If the ATR72 has the range to fly nonstop from Muscat to Jeddah, I am sure it lift enough fuel along with payload to Lahore-Gilgit-Lahore flight.
Not about range. It’s about take off/landing weight limitations due to short runways at GIL/CJL.
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PIA ATR 72-500 registration AP-BKY has completed its ferry flight PK6721 from Karachi and landed in Johannesburg.

The ferry flight from Pakistan to South Africa included multiple technical/refueling stops.

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According to news sources:

PIA has submitted ATR 72-500 dry lease details to Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) with a delay of more than eighteen months. Leasing of these aircraft caused loss of billion of rupees to the airline. Two members of PIA Board of Directors that approved acquisition of these aircraft on dry lease will also be questioned by FIA.

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PIA ATR 72-500 registration AP-BKY seen at Johannesburg - OR Tambo International Airport, South Africa on December 16.

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According to news sources, FIA Corporate Crime Circle will question participants of PIA 364th Board of Directors meeting that approved acquisition of five ATR 72-500 aircraft on dry lease. The five aircraft joined PIA fleet in year 2015.

The lease of these five ATR 72-500 caused loss of more than seven billion rupees to PIA.

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Prime Minister Imran Khan during a meeting with PIA officials today advised that action must be taken against individuals involved in acquiring aircraft on expensive lease terms for the airline.

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According to the following news source, PIA is only returning one ATR 72 to the lessor.
https://ukaviation.news/pia-reaches-agr ... atr-early/
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PIA ATR 72-500 (AP-BKY) returned to leasing company to undergo "C Check" at Johannesburg - OR Tambo International Airport, South Africa.

Photo taken on December 30, 2020.

ImagePIA ATR72-212A AP-BKY by Bob Adams, on Flickr

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The other three PIA ATR 72-500 aircraft remain in-active since December 2020.

AP-BKV
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ap-bkv

AP-BKX
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ap-bkx

AP-BKZ
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ap-bkz

Is PIA making lease payments for these aircraft?

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The other three dry leased ATR 72-500 aircraft in PIA fleet continue to remain inactive:

AP-BKV
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ap-bkv

AP-BKX
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ap-bkx

AP-BKZ
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ap-bkz

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Re: PIA to Return ATR 72 Aircraft to Leasing Company

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It is possible to operate LHE KDU LHE. With A320.
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Abbas Ali wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:02 am The other three dry leased ATR 72-500 aircraft in PIA fleet continue to remain inactive:

AP-BKV
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ap-bkv

AP-BKX
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ap-bkx

AP-BKZ
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ap-bkz

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There is no real usage left for these Aircraft due to COVID. PIA can't do any thing but waiting for lease term to be expired so these can be returned back. Any body have idea when the lease term is going to be expired?
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These were probably acquired on an 8 year lease during 2014-15.
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^ Right:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=22552

I found this thread. Deliveries were happen in march-april of 2015. If it is for 6 years, PIA will be fine and if it is for 8 years it would be an issue.
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