PIA Lahore to Karachi Airbus A320 Flight Crashes

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Abbas Ali wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:15 am
Prime Minister Imran Khan says the way PK8303 investigation report was made public was wrong because it did not give good impression in the world.
There was no way that the report could've been presented to give a 'good' impression to the world.

Everyone knows the truth about PIA now, and I'm glad it didn't give a good impression. I hope PIA gets banned internationally for at least 1 year, preferably more.

I can only hope that the Govt will then realise that it's a bottomless money pit and they should just cut their losses and give up on it.


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murtaza12 wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:12 pm
Abbas Ali wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:15 am
Prime Minister Imran Khan says the way PK8303 investigation report was made public was wrong because it did not give good impression in the world.
There was no way that the report could've been presented to give a 'good' impression to the world.

Everyone knows the truth about PIA now, and I'm glad it didn't give a good impression. I hope PIA gets banned internationally for at least 1 year, preferably more.

I can only hope that the Govt will then realise that it's a bottomless money pit and they should just cut their losses and give up on it.
You've hit the nail on the head.

At the heart of this rotten culture is ego and the extra-ordinary lengths Pakistanis will go to save face by shirking responsibility. The PM's stataement is indicative of this. That hundreds have died on Pakistani airlines over the last decade or so doesn't matter as long as we (Pakistanis, the people and country) aren't seen as being at fault and cast in a bad light. Utter disgrace of a Prime minister and utter disgrace as a human being.
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In my opinion the part which disturbed PM may be is when the minister informed about the dubious credentials of pilots. In actual it's not the part of 8303 report. May be PM want the action on this dubious credentials also but it was not necessary to speak about it in the parliament.
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This is an excerpt from Dawn newspaper today,

Kanwal Arsalan, who lost her only brother in the crash, questioned the airline’s standard operating procedures. “If the air traffic control [ATC] staff was on a prayer break when the flight was supposed to land, where were their substitutes?

What this lady is trying to imply could be the reason that approach tower did not pass on the ill fated plane onto the control tower?

https://www.dawn.com/news/1565992/relat ... ed-by-aaib

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I know late Sajjad Gul age 59 years old NOT NOT NOT 54 years old as his dob 12th May 1961.

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So EASA has decided to ban PIA from all flights to the european union after they declared PIA,s response to their letter on 20th june,2020 after the dubious license controversy,PIA now will have to appeal and Assure the EASA of their credibility. In my opinion PIA should fire all the pilots who cheated on all 8 exams to who and suspend the others until they give retakes on their exams.

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Public notice In July 9 newspaper:

May 22, 2020, PIA flight PK8303 crash victims belongings were recovered by district administration/rescue workers from the crash site. These items will be placed at PIA Training Centre near Terminal I (Old Airport Karachi) between July 11 and 13 from 10:00 AM to 5:00 PM.

Crash victims' relatives/heirs are requested to visit the site with an original CNIC (plus its photocopy) to identify items for their handover.

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Airplane is flown with brain not with stick and rudder.

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In the first phase:

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425 items belonging to PK8303 air crash victims were displayed for identification and handing over to relatives/heirs.

181 items identified handed over to relatives/heirs.

Handed over items include electronics items, jewelry, identification, educational and other documents.

During the three days, a total of 67 families visited and 31 filed claim for identified items.

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Senate has stopped a Joint Investigation Team (JIT) formed to investigate PK8303 crash. Now, only Pakistan's Aircraft Accident Investigation Board (AAIB) will investigate the crash, say senate orders.

Earlier, on the instructions of a Senate Standing Committee, a Joint Investigation Team (JIT) was formed for PK8303 crash investigation. The JIT was to be headed by Additional Director FIA Immigration Lahore Imran Yaqoob.

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Under an agreement with PIA, UK-based Blake Emergency Services (https://www.blakeemergency.com/) is cleaning recovered items of PK8303 crash victims before the process of items' identification/handover to victims' relatives/heirs.

Items like check books, documents soaked in jet fuel/oil also cleaned by Blake Emergency Services.

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After successful talks between PIA management and the insurance company, the compensation amount for legal heirs of each crash victim of PK8303 has been increased to PKR 10,000,000 (Pakistan Rupees Ten Million).

Earlier, under Carriage by Air Act - 2012, compensation of PKR 5,000,000 (Pakistan Rupees Five Million) was to be paid to legal heirs of each victim of the crash.

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Karachi, 04 August, 2020 : In an unprecedented move, PIA was able to convince the insurance company to pay an amount of Rs. 10 million per passenger instead of Rs. 5 million as allowed maximum limit in the Carriage by Air Act of 2012. This will be in addition to already paid Rs 1.0 million towards funeral / burial expenses to the immediate family of the deceased passengers of the ill-fated PK 8303 flight of 22 May 2020. PIA spokesman said on Tuesday that letters are being dispatched to all the successors on record, in this regard.

The increase in compensation amount was result of personal rigorous follow up of CEO PIA Air Marshal Arshad Malik with the insurers who maintained that Rs. 5 million was too less. PIA has also paid Rs. 1.0 million to the young girl who passed away on the ground. In addition to that Rs. 500,000 has also been paid to the two injured on ground. The spokesperson once again added that already paid amount of Rs 1.0 million is not part of the enhanced amount of Rs 10.0 million per passenger and is in addition to that.

PIA spokesman has said that PIA has completed the spade work and is awaiting Certificates of Guaradianship and / or Succession from the legal hiers of the victims for expeditious process and early payment.-

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NICL to pay Rs10m to heir of each PIA crash victim

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Updated 05 Aug 2020

KARACHI/ISLAMABAD: The National Insurance Company Limited (NICL) will pay Rs10 million each to the heir of 97 passengers killed in the May 22 plane crash near Karachi airport.

Being a government company, the NICL has insured every Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) passengers for Rs5m as well as the entire fleet of the national carrier.

A PIA official said the legal and insurance teams of the PIA had found out a technicality to double the insurance coverage to the PK8303 crash victims from Rs5m per passenger to Rs10m per passenger.

He said the PIA CEO in a meeting had tasked the teams to convey to the insurance company that it should not follow the carriage laws of Pakistan of 2012 as it had not been specifically mentioned in the agreement between the PIA and NICL. Instead the company should account for inflation of the last eight years, which should double the amount, he added.

The official said the national carrier fully facilitated the victims’ families in getting the compensation amount and would process and submit the claims on behalf of every affected family after completing the required legal formalities.

The ill-fated A320 aircraft was insured for $19.7m. The aircraft was not owned by the PIA as it got it on lease. The Celestial Aviation Trading 34 Limited, Ireland was the owner of the aircraft and it would get the insurance amount.

Source: https://www.dawn.com/news/1572687/nicl- ... ash-victim
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