It's not a matter of agreeing to disagree when YOU are wrong.CaptShahid621 wrote:imiakhtar wrote:CaptShahid621 wrote:
Anyhow now that is settled, back to the topic at hand.
Fine, you're not happy with the "consulting" business links I used even though AVITAS is highly regarded, let us numbers given by banks that specialise in financing aircraft purchases. Here is Well Fargo analysis, one of the largest financier in the airline business:
Prior to Southwest Airlines’ decision to defer 30 Boeing 737-800 deliveries from 2012-13 to 2017-18, it
published the data above in its latest 10-Q. We estimate that (after factoring in PDPs) SWA is paying ~$5.67B for the 131 MAXs in 2019-2022, or $43.3M each; assuming an average of nine years of price escalation at 2.5%/year, the base price would be $34.7M – a 64% discount off the 737MAX-8 list price. We do not view this as an indication of a “price war†between Boeing and Airbus, as SWA is a priority 737 operator that was certain to receive the most favorable MAX launch-customer pricing.
http://leehamnews.com/2012/05/18/wells- ... m-for-max/
Also, this is the sort of discount levels being used in 2014. Read here:
Although Boeing alternately acknowledges it’s under price pressure from Airbus or it’s maintaining pricing on its aircraft, UBS aerospace analyst David Strauss concludes that discounting is increasing on the 737 and 777 but is somewhat better on the 787.
Strauss writes in an August 6 note that discounting on the 737 is around 59%. The 777 is now discounted at about 54% and the 787 trails at 46%. (He doesn’t bother with the 747-8.) These are for in-production models.
http://leehamnews.com/2012/02/14/more-o ... reak-even/
As I said, the 777 at a minimum will be discounted with 50% off list price pretty much guaranteed.
You only need to look at the most recent PIA 77W order where it was mentioned in the Pakistani senate that PIA ordered each 77W for $150m.