PIA to Invite Bids for Dry Lease of Ten Narrow-body Aircraft

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Re: PIA to Invite Bids for Dry Lease of Ten Narrow-body Airc

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Abbas Ali wrote:Bidders Offer Airbus A320 and Boeing 737-800 Aircraft to PIA

Chairman PIA said that in future PIA will be having three types of aircraft i.e. ATR, Boeing 777 and Airbus A320 or Boeing 737-800.

Source: PIA Press Release (March 7, 2014)
Good that management has decided to consolidate the aircraft types.
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The first bad step taken. They are going for 5 738s and 5 320s.
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Who said. It would be either one of two.
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PIA bid evaluation report has rejected Boeing 737-800 and Airbus A320 aircraft that were offered by KL AeroParts.

Following eight Airbus A320-200 aircraft offered by Qatar Aviation Lease Company (QALC) have been accepted by PIA. All these aircraft are powered with IAE V2500 engines.

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Aircraft Type: Airbus A320-232
Construction Number: 4804
Year Built: 2011
Engines: IAE V2527-A5
Last Known Registration: 9V-TAW
Last Known Operator: Tigerair
Last Known Passenger Cabin Configuration: 180 seats all-economy

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Aircraft Type: Airbus A320-232
Construction Number: 4812
Year Built: 2011
Engines: IAE V2527-A5
Last Known Registration: 9V-TAX
Last Known Operator: Tigerair
Last Known Passenger Cabin Configuration: 180 seats all-economy

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Aircraft Type: Airbus A320-232
Construction Number: 4874
Year Built: 2011
Engines: IAE V2527-A5
Last Known Registration: 9V-TAY
Last Known Operator: Tigerair
Last Known Passenger Cabin Configuration: 180 seats all-economy

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Aircraft Type: Airbus A320-232
Construction Number: 4918
Year Built: 2011
Engines: IAE V2527-A5
Last Known Registration: PK-RMN
Last Known Operator: Tigerair Mandala
Last Known Passenger Cabin Configuration: 180 seats all-economy

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Aircraft Type: Airbus A320-232
Construction Number: 4973
Year Built: 2011
Engines: IAE V2527-A5
Last Known Registration: PK-RMO
Last Known Operator: Tigerair Mandala
Last Known Passenger Cabin Configuration: 180 seats all-economy

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Aircraft Type: Airbus A320-232
Construction Number: 5073
Year Built: 2012
Engines: IAE V2527-A5
Last Known Registration: PK-RMP
Last Known Operator: Tigerair Mandala
Last Known Passenger Cabin Configuration: 180 seats all-economy

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Aircraft Type: Airbus A320-232
Construction Number: 5335
Year Built: 2012
Engines: IAE V2527-A5
Last Known Registration: PK-RMQ
Last Known Operator: Tigerair Mandala
Last Known Passenger Cabin Configuration: 180 seats all-economy

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Aircraft Type: Airbus A320-232
Construction Number: 5375
Year Built: 2012
Engines: IAE V2527-A5
Last Known Registration: PK-RMR
Last Known Operator: Tigerair Mandala
Last Known Passenger Cabin Configuration: 180 seats all-economy

Source: piac.com.pk

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Re: PIA to Invite Bids for Dry Lease of Ten Narrow-body Airc

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So it makes 12 (8+4) A320 aircraft that will join PIA by end of june/july.
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it makes 11 (8+3) A320,

3 are being leased from GECAS and the last know operator is China Eastern Airlines
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Ok. So 11 if utilized to maximum utility will help a great deal in turning PIA around.
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faiq wrote:Ok. So 11 if utilized to maximum utility will help a great deal in turning PIA around.
Whilst it is a step in the right direction, new aircraft will not cure PIA's problems which have a root cause in over staffing.

If you recall when the initial 777 order was made, the same was said at the time - that the new fuel efficient aircraft replacing the 747 would make PIA profitable.

We all know how that worked out.
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Well the 777s did save PIA when half of their fleet was banned by EU. Even now with half of the fleet grounded, had it not been for these 9 777s I can't imagine what state PIA would've been in right now.

They've made the right move opting for 320s because they were already getting 3 but personally I would've loved seeing brand new 738s in PIA colors.
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taha_imran4 wrote: I would've loved seeing brand new 738s in PIA colors.
me too :thumbs_up:
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imiakhtar wrote:
faiq wrote:Ok. So 11 if utilized to maximum utility will help a great deal in turning PIA around.
Whilst it is a step in the right direction, new aircraft will not cure PIA's problems which have a root cause in over staffing.

If you recall when the initial 777 order was made, the same was said at the time - that the new fuel efficient aircraft replacing the 747 would make PIA profitable.

We all know how that worked out.
I think it is pointless to bring up the over staffing matter .This idea is usually used when the airline wants to take the focus off the root causes ,I wouldn't worry about over staffing because almost 40 percent of those employees are paid salaries as low as 15k or less so they are peanuts for the airline and not a huge liability .They just need to fire the employees with forge documents ,not the other poor employees who can't actually run their houses with PIA salary only .Think about it .
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Well said Uzair sahab! =D>
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It would be a bad choice to go for the 3 CFM powered A320s....PIA would have engineering problems as it has with A310s (6 powered by CF6 & 6 powered by PW4156).
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I think the three GECAS A320s will not come, only the eight from the Qatari company.

but how cramped will these planes be, 180 seat all economy layout.

Plus at least 8 A310s for the next couple of years will do the job.
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Re: PIA to Invite Bids for Dry Lease of Ten Narrow-body Airc

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Uzair Ansari wrote:
imiakhtar wrote:
faiq wrote:Ok. So 11 if utilized to maximum utility will help a great deal in turning PIA around.
Whilst it is a step in the right direction, new aircraft will not cure PIA's problems which have a root cause in over staffing.

If you recall when the initial 777 order was made, the same was said at the time - that the new fuel efficient aircraft replacing the 747 would make PIA profitable.

We all know how that worked out.
I think it is pointless to bring up the over staffing matter .This idea is usually used when the airline wants to take the focus off the root causes ,I wouldn't worry about over staffing because almost 40 percent of those employees are paid salaries as low as 15k or less so they are peanuts for the airline and not a huge liability .They just need to fire the employees with forge documents ,not the other poor employees who can't actually run their houses with PIA salary only .Think about it .
Every employee's role needs to be looked at, whether they're managers or aircraft cleaners.

It's fair to compare the case of PIA to that of the old Air New Zealand, state owned, bloated and inefficient. Actually, their short, medium and long haul fleet mix would fit PIA very well. As you can see here however, the biggest savings were made on overhead costs of which staffing is the largest.

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